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Old 08-21-2002, 07:10 AM   #21
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Default Re: Shaping up to be a Very Good Year...

I find it VERY hard to believe that Honda would drop the 954RR? It's only a year old bike (actually, 3rd year going into '03), but Honda may have a trick up there sleeve or 2 or 8?



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Old 08-21-2002, 07:34 AM   #22
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Default Re: Now that's what I call journalism!

So obviously you didn't read the whole post. Can't blame you, I tend to ramble.



Important points, in bullet format:



*I like MO



*I'm not leaving MO



*I'm concerned about the future of MO



*I think that MO has better, deeper, and different content than it's "competitors", a different enough level of content to consider them being in different classes - in my mind putting MO on the same level as the print mags



I'm not abondoning youz guyz, and I'm REALLY REALLY looking forward to the 5-bike Nekkid test!
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Old 08-21-2002, 07:37 AM   #23
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Default Re: What about the 919?

Uh, am I missing something?



There is an "SV1000" - or at least something in that vein - the TL1000S. Hell, most people thought of the SV650 as a TL650S when it was introduced!



And there is an RC51 (mostly) powered semi-standard - the VTR1000F Superhawk.



Maybe those bikes fulfill your needs?
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Old 08-21-2002, 08:22 AM   #24
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Default Re: What about the 919?

You're missing the advantages of a standard. No fairing means cheaper to insure and cheaper to repair. Upright riding position means greater comfort. Real handlebars mean easier maneuvering compared to clip ons. The superhawk and TL both are sportbikes, not standards and I would consider them if I could work out the insurance without selling a kidney but I'd still rather have a liter class standard that is liquid cooled and has good handling with lots of down low torque.



Thanks for the suggestions though. The Superhawk is a good bike but the short gas tank range is a turnoff. The TL is too much of a pure sporty, not enough of a commuter / weekend cruiser.



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Old 08-21-2002, 08:55 AM   #25
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Default Re: What about the 919?

David,



how about the V-strom? It has the tl engine

and enough oomph...



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Old 08-21-2002, 08:59 AM   #26
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Default Re: What about the 919?

Hadn't really thought of that. It has the comfy ergos and the good power delivery. Don't care for the plastic but I might just have to look into that.



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Old 08-21-2002, 09:29 AM   #27
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Default Re: sv1000

an SV1000 would be cool, I don't think they make TL1000's anymore do they? only TL1000R's plus the rotary damper suspension is odd. The 919 is definatly sharp but more paint options and adjustable suspension would be nice, I'm happy with my '01 Bandit S, but hot temps aren't an issue in Tacoma, cold and rain 8 mos out of the year make some kind of fairing nice, and air-cooling works just fine. I like nekkid bikes because you get sport bike performance, comfy ergo's and being able to see the motor, instead of being covered up in plastic. The valve adjustment on a ducati would put me off too, but I could live with a speed triple.
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Old 08-21-2002, 10:02 AM   #28
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Default Re: What about the 919?

The primer didn't bother me...



What put me off was no centerstand ( I'm

in CA ) and those stupid high mount pipes.



Yeah, for the person that wants a playbike,

the pipes aren't a big deal, but for those

of us who like to tour w/ soft bags...



I'll probably be buying an FZ-1 as my next bike.



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Old 08-21-2002, 10:16 AM   #29
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Hey although there is some similarity between this post and a post on Motorcycle Daily i.e. they both are talking about motorcycles. Let us be fair. Burns post is much different i.e the CBR under the seat exhaust etc. the Chicago show etc. I like hearing this stuff so please keep it up.



I have been critical of Burns for the lack of content but if Burns and others are working at MO for charity. I owe all of the MO staff an apology. ( You know I had to bold that it wouldn't be a proper KPaul post without it.)



The helmet piece was great cause Burns had the guts to criticize the AMA in print. Too many motorcycle journalist talk reverently about the AMA as if we are all supposed to be grateful it exists. Hey, they are taking our money they should be working on worthwhile stuff like Burns said.



I am looking forward to the fall Lord Burns to those shootouts. By the way, offer ElFaco a job he can finish his degree at UCLA. If he says no tell him its raining here in Seattle.





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Old 08-21-2002, 10:32 AM   #30
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Just be aware that the centerstand is available in Europe and can be sent over here and soon it will be available in North America. Also realize that what you see are the heat shields, not the pipes. I've got a buddy here in TX with one and after 2 hours of squidding around in a Texas July the heat shields were just warm to the touch. Check www.919.org, he has chase harper bags mounted with no problem. Actually soft bag mounting on a 919 is less of a problem because of the position of the pipes and the efficient heat shields than on traditional pipes where you have to worry about contact with the bags .



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