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Old 04-12-2002, 10:33 AM   #1
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More power to you, JB! Glad you have a new venue to showcase your remarkable talent. This coming from me - a slightly right-leaning, pro-capitalist bonehead who doesn't have all the answers. Peace out, brother.

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Old 04-12-2002, 10:41 AM   #2
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Hmmn, a joke sprang to mind...





What we know about Osama bin Laden is this -- he's worth $300 million, he

has five wives and 26 kids ... and he hates Americans for their

'excessive' lifestyle."-- David Letterman
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Old 04-12-2002, 10:44 AM   #3
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You make some good points in your column, though I'm not sure they hate us for our culture of materialism. In my mind, I think it is our tendency to promote our culture and try to convert others to various parts of it that bothers so many outside the U.S. Quite frankly, I think they want us to mind our own business while we think we need to enlighten them to our ways.



Obviously there are definitely times when the U.S. should use its power to influence and intervene, but often I do think we push it too far.



Hmm, too much thinking, need to go riding.



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Old 04-12-2002, 10:52 AM   #4
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First Post! Sweeeeeet! Enjoy the column, and as a right wing capitalist, I would have to say that your column is not from from the point, if not dead on. Believe it or not sportsfans, there is a growing number of Americans that don't give a rats ass if they get 20 miles per gallon or 8 miles per gallon as long as they have the newest, biggest SUV on the planet. My parents are a prime example. What the hell do two retired people need an Expedition (sp?) for. To "haul around grandkids you say". Sorry, all five are two wheeled instead of two legged. Sorry mom! "We might buy a big boat". Crike, you have 5 boats and they all stay moored at the lakehouse, never towed a one anywhere. "Well we might take a long trip". BS, you'll fly, then rent a Expedition. with a third bench seat for the two of you. "What if we are in a wreck?" Well if everyother vehicle on the road wasn't a 5 ton behemoth that couldn't get out of it's own way, we may not have that many wrecks or at least less force in those we do have. And while you at it, freaking hang the cell phone up.



I digress, your column as usuall is excellent.



P.S. If Motorcyclist doesn't appreciate "drunken, unprofessional behavior" in it's proper environment, then you are the better for being gone.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:01 AM   #5
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Hey Bro. Lay off the juice. Time and place and all that. As far as americans being over consumers, it's because were over workers. Tell them to get off their asses and do something constructive and then they will have a little excess also. But the whole SUV thing I don't get. If I had the money for an SUV I'd spend it on a BMW or American GT. It's an intimidation thing for a lot of them I think.

A lot of these SUV are really trucks and should be subject to the same limitations on the highways as commercial vehicles.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:04 AM   #6
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Er, was aforementioned behavior at the track? I wouldn't call that the "proper environment."



If it was at a showroom or conference room or something, who cares? Those degenerates were just looking for any excuse, and I'm glad you're here with us. Just keep it sober when you're on wheels (2, 4, 18, whatever).



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Old 04-12-2002, 11:14 AM   #7
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I believe anybody who does not live in the USA has some sort of hatred for us.

It is like a few years ago when the Cowboys were winning all the superbowls with all there flash.

We are hated because we are Numero Uno!

The way of the world is RULE or BE RULED.

The only way for Total brotherhood, or unity of all creeds and cultures is if ALIENS WANTED TO TAKE OVER OUR PLANET.

If there was only ONE race of people on the plane, ALL of the same religion, ALL with blond hair and blue eyes somebody would fine something to hate about somebody else. May People who had zits on there face would feel repressed because the others have clear skin.

We are the best. We have to enjoy it because NO country or Government has remained in tact forever. Ask the Egyptians, Greeks, or Romans.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:19 AM   #8
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In the same vein regarding motorcycles, who needs a tubtart Goldwing? Who would possibly need a squidly 160 RWH? Why would overweight, underpowered, high-priced cruisers exist? Why, is because we Americans want the biggest, fastest, or the most expensive toys, period. Squidly complaining about an SUV, while riding his 185hp 195mph Busa is laughable. Both are excess in different directions, and each just as gluttonous. One is more tonnage than can be used, and one is more acceleration and speed than can be used. Please folks, don't deny them THEIR toys while we have ours. We are the MINORITY. Get over it already. In 34 years of riding I have been cut off and almost run over by just about every vehicle on the road, so I don't discriminate here. I don't trust anyone and neither should you. Also, if you know anything about our foreign policy since WWII, you wouldn't wonder why we are hated by quite a few nations.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:19 AM   #9
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Default So what exactly did you do?

Did you puke in the fish bowl? Feel up Sandra Day O'Connor? Crash one of the CBRs? What?Does Boehm drink beer? He looks to me like someone who doesn't. Is he a real tight ass?



Anyway, I enjoyed your column even if I don't agree with most of it, and my disagreement stems from your basic premise, I guess. I don't feel that "people" in general are good or bad. We just are. We are all sacks of gelatinous guts and gore with the same general needs and desires matched to wildly disparate capablities to achieve those needs. All of us, from Mother Teresa to Stalin, are solely motivated by self interest, however sublimated that self interest may be, and however misguided in its attempt at fulfillment. Some people we like, because they are like us (or enough unlike us to make them interesting). Some people we don't like. We get along with those or we kill them, whatever we can get away with.



I do agree with your general feelings about the use and ownership of SUVs. They suck and the people that own them suck. I know I can hardly talk about gluttony however, without appearing the hypocrite. Actually, most of us can't. Most of us own way too much, use way too much, waste too much to point our fingers at the other guy. That's America. That's any population with the same resources as America. That's life.



As for Bush, I really don't give a ***** if he recognizes the reasons why all the muslims hate and want to kill us. Who knows why they do and, really, who cares? That's just another bit of gluttony you get to wallow in as an American; the luxury of two huge oceans and friendly neighbors that allow you to gaze at your navel while whole countries of fanatics plot your destruction. We are fast approaching the last chocolate in that box, as September 11 indicates all to plainly.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:20 AM   #10
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A little less than 10% or the world's population? Try a lot less.



Current world population: roughly 6,237 million. Current US population 286 million. That's 4.5% of the world population. Less than 1/20th.



US energy use last time I heard was nearer 28 or 29%.



So we have 1/20th of the world's population using between 1/4 and 1/3 of the world's energy.
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