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Old 04-14-2002, 05:42 PM   #131
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Default Re: You drive an SUV, You're an idiot.

There's the problem. I see SUVs turned over on California freeways on an almost weekly basis. People think they can drive SUVs like sports cars and too often they end up on their backs blocking 2 lanes of traffic. SUVs have a high center of gravity and should be driven like the trucks from which they are derived. Carefully and more slowly than a typical family sedan.
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Old 04-14-2002, 05:52 PM   #132
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One of the truly wunnerful things about America is that we're free to buy what we want. Sure, we consume more resources in relation to our relatively skimpy population, but MyGawd man, we're also the world's biggest economy, bar none. Think of all the goods n'services we supply to the rest of the world.



JB. luv ya' man, and I welcome the opportunity to read the "other side" of the capitalist equation. However, I get extremely bent when others try and tell me what I "need". If somebody wants a big pig SUV, and they have the means to afford it, then God Bless America. If we get caught up in imposing our belief structure on others, how long before Big Brother tells us we don't need no stinkin' motorcycles?
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Old 04-14-2002, 06:24 PM   #133
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The fact remains, driving beyond the abilities of the vehicle makes you a bad driver! Are you saying that SUV's are more likely to be in an accident because for some reason a normally good driver goes brain dead at the wheel of an SUV.



BTW dont talk about accidents without mentioning lane splitting accidents. But then I am sure the innocent motorcyclist is NEVER at fault. Only the SUV driver, right?



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Old 04-14-2002, 06:40 PM   #134
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Default U Village?

As in University Village? Yep, home of rich moms, spoiled kids and it's one of the top SUV Meccas of Seattle. I love to bunny-hop speed bumps in there on my SV...
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Old 04-14-2002, 06:53 PM   #135
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Default Re: You drive an SUV, You're an idiot.

I'm saying that people get behind the wheel of an SUV and drive like they are in a car, which has a lower center of gravity, corners better, stops faster and is generally more responsive to driver input.



This is partly the fault of the marketers, who paint an unrealistic picuture of the SUVs capability (ie. drives like a car, not a truck). I notice that some of the latest SUVs are carry yellow warning stickers which state they should be driven more carefully due to the high risk of rollovers etc. The same could be said about stopping distance etc.



I'm not saying all SUV drivers brain dead or 'bad drivers', just that Ms. Soccer Mom or anyone else needs to be aware she's not in the camry any more and to learn to drive accordingly or she'll end up on her roof or up the back of some motorcyclist at the stop light.



Of course motorcycles can be at fault, but the stats show most multiple vehicle accidents are the fault of the car/truck/SUV. I always pay attention to SUVs because I know it's very hard for them to see me.
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Old 04-14-2002, 06:58 PM   #136
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Personally, I've always enjoyed your drunken unprofessional behavior and secretly wished I could be an entertaining drunk as opposed to just revealing a little too much about my personal life after a few rounds of OEM wine-n-dine. But I digress...



I really want to comment on those friggin' SUVs. You see, as I lie here on my couch, icing my back, popping Advil, and having a ****tail or two (strictly for medicinal purposes), I've been thinking of other effects that SUVs have on the general public. My wife's battered Miata (the closest you can come to a revvy little inline four bike and still have four wheels, IMNSHO) sits battered in the driveway. The Jeep Grand Cherokee (with dry cleaning hanging in the passenger side window, no less) that attempted anal penetration with a closing speed of around 35mph escaped with nothing more than a cracked grill and a slightly dented bumper. (Yes, there was probably hidden damage that she'll have to pay for--I hope.) I don't think the short-skirted, sandle-clad chickie that hit us really needed the Jeep's four wheel drive to navigate the wilds of Burbank, but I could be wrong.



The last time I was on the receiving end of a SUV (a white Bronco in So. Cal!) I left the scene with a totaled bike and a knee that took over a year to recover. And I felt lucky. But I digress again...



Then today, during the round of "We're OK" phone calls that always follow events like this weekend's rear-ending, my mother, who lives on the other coast, informs me that a teenaged girl, armed with a SUV and a cell phone (the other urban scourge) had successfully killed two members of a family of four (with the remaider in critical, I believe) just days ago.



So, I'm thinking that there's more than just gluttony going on here. And if you don't mind, I think I'll appropriate a slogan from bumper stickers I've seen alot of lately: SUVs (War on the on the stickers) don't decide who's right, only who's left.



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Old 04-14-2002, 07:11 PM   #137
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Default Ah, corn...

You know what really tickles me about people pushing gasohol derived from corn as a green fuel? The fertilizers used to grow our abundance of corn is derived from--yes, you guessed it--petrolium!



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Old 04-15-2002, 04:05 AM   #138
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Let me get this straight--you think they are OK with their anti-materialistic views, entitled to them, that this is what forms the basis of their anti-Americanism, and then say we could solve the hate fostered by such views by air-dropping mini-bikes???? Seems to me this would be an idealistic slap to the face and held up in anti-consumeristic countries as yet another attempt at forcing Western-style consumerism where it is not wanted...



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Old 04-15-2002, 04:33 AM   #139
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I'm guessing no-one reads this at the end of the litany of SUV bashing, but...



I own an SUV. Yup, gas-guzzling, aerodynamic as a brick Jeep Cherokee. And love it.



-but-



I live down a 1/4 mile dirt driveway with a steep hill at the end. And, here in snowy Maine, I've gotten stuck with a 2wd car twice. And for the same year, milage, and condition, any used 4wd car out there was mo' money. And running dirt tires with ice-traction spikes on my old Honda Hawk was fun when there was snow and ice on the road, but frightening otherwise.



And its the wife's car--I commute 140mi round trip on my VFR. So there.



That said, we have valid reasons to own an SUV... but I still sneer at the one's my neighbors, who front a plowed street, own and can't help but laugh when I see them off the road during winter conditions here in ME.



Remember: 4wd on ice only means that all four wheels will be spinning when you go off the road instead of just two; and all cars come with 4-wheel-braking, for all the good it does in messy conditions.



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Old 04-15-2002, 05:01 AM   #140
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I am reminded of the old saying " all generalities are wrong, including this one "

It is very tempting to simplify complex problems by giving simlpe answers to them. Many feel this is the appeal of religion particularly in the fundamentalist forms....be they fundamentalist Christian or Muslim. I'm not sure that I can agree with your contention that " most people are good " It isn't that I feel that they are bad but the motivation

of an individual's behavior has been the topic of arguments among philosophers, criminalogists,sociologists, psychologists, priests, monks....ad nausium.The important thing to me is that we as individuals and as a society continues to try to see why the other fella acts and believes the way he does. Warfare and murder are not new phenomenoms but now as always they are symptoms of a failure. I think it was the Budda who said " the man you have most to fear is that man who has nothing to lose " As the wealth of the planet becomes concentrated into fewer and fewer hands we may be creating millions with nothing to lose. All that said I have to say that my own solution for left lane drivers is to have them removed from their vehicles, stripped naked, staked out spread eagle in the divider strip and pour honey into their eyes and allow the insects to eat their brains out.
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