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Old 03-29-2010, 07:36 PM   #11
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I have had ABS on three different bikes. FJ1200, not the best and would kick in on RXR tracks or potholes really early. Bmw GS, never noticed the front but the rear would kick in early on choppy pavement. Bmw K1200R, could be the safest bike I've had to stop. Absolutely NOW stopping in most conditions.
Now I don't know if I would buy another bike w/o ABS.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:20 PM   #12
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Shouldn't have said that. Now you're going to have to endure the wrath of Moke.



Whogivesafock? Most of us don't have the money and time to spend hours and hours on a track in the rain to learn the exact braking capabilities of our bikes. I have no problem with ABS and never did, except for a reluctance to buy it when it was first added to bikes. I just knew it would take several years to make it work right and let others do the beta testing for me.

My only problem with the new sophisticated traction controls on the BMWs is that it indicates that we have reached a place where the bikes are in fact too powerful. A bike that needs such safeguards to keep its riders from killing themselves is, in fact, too powerful. I expect the increased fatalities to bring about more govt controls in an attempt to safe healthcare costs. Anyone want to make a wager?
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:04 PM   #13
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My only problem with the new sophisticated traction controls on the BMWs is that it indicates that we have reached a place where the bikes are in fact too powerful. A bike that needs such safeguards to keep its riders from killing themselves is, in fact, too powerful. I expect the increased fatalities to bring about more govt controls in an attempt to safe healthcare costs. Anyone want to make a wager?
Which will in turn further drive up the cost of obtaining a decent bike.
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Old 03-30-2010, 04:19 AM   #14
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A bike that needs such safeguards to keep its riders from killing themselves is, in fact, too powerful. I expect the increased fatalities to bring about more govt controls in an attempt to safe healthcare costs. Anyone want to make a wager?
No wagers from me! Once the government starts footing the bill, they will (be able to) tell you what you can and can't do or, rather, what they will and won't pay for.

BTW, kudos! It takes a certain amount of skill to turn an ABS thread into a healthcare thread. You truly are the master!
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:27 AM   #15
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" I expect the increased fatalities to bring about more govt controls in an attempt to safe healthcare costs."

Actually, if they kill themselves in increasing numbers, isn't that already saving healthcare costs? Saves on pension and Social Security too! The Gov should promote this type activity, no??
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" I expect the increased fatalities to bring about more govt controls in an attempt to safe healthcare costs."

Actually, if they kill themselves in increasing numbers, isn't that already saving healthcare costs? Saves on pension and Social Security too! The Gov should promote this type activity, no??
If they thought like that then they would encourage smoking too, but they don't. The key to getting people to willingly accept the slave chains is to pretend it's for their own good.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:39 AM   #17
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Anyway....... I'm with Fenton, probably wouldn't buy a bike without ABS now just as I wouldn't buy a cage without it.
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