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Old 05-19-2008, 09:39 AM   #11
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At least the MotoGP race was awesome...
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:55 AM   #12
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Is the proposed format change worth you looking at races again? DMG knows the problem. They are being hammered for radical changes, but radical change is the only way to correct the issues that Pro Racing is dealing with. So, If you could grid the following: The Boz Bros, The Hayden Bros, Hacker, DuHamel, Hodgeson, Herrin, Pegram, Zemke, Davies, Eslick, the boys from Emgo/M4, Yates, May and three or four others on the Daytona Superbike grid for an entire season, would you watch? Screw Matt! If he thinks he's too good for the new format then- P!SS OFF, Wanker! Retire and go back to Australia and run Aus Superbike.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:04 AM   #13
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That and riding around on Zrex. 'Course Zrex is more fun that most things. Especially those boat anchor old Bandits.

seem like the Z-REX had some beans for those too frail and elderly to handly the mighty Bandit...
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We know Bandits rule Sarnali. Don't let others in on the secret.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:26 PM   #15
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"I think we have to start by making ourselves happy by knowing we are going to deliver a product which evolves with its means and can build over a period of time build on things that all those things people are looking for.

Right now, I see people defending the current Superbike program like it's the Holy Bible. I look at a race yesterday that had 21 guys in it, about 12-13 real Superbikes in it. This from a country with 300 million people, I don't find that acceptable. And so while there are those that will vehemently say this is the way that God intended it, there are those of us who disagree just as vehemently. How do you balance that? Fortunately, for me, I am going to do something about it. I am going to try it out my way and see if its any better. It certainly can't be any worse."

"I think that we'll win them over with good competition and the fact that they'll come out here to a good facility and not know who is going to win until the checkered flag comes out. I think that's important. Is it possible that if we changed everything today that Mladin and Spies would win every race? Of course it is. They are two of the best riders in the world, let alone the US. But we won't know until we do this."

"I think that when you look at these fellows like Barry Bonds who have all these home runs but have an asterisks, we don't have asterisks here but maybe if we factored in special equipment and special tires we might. So if we take away some of those special things we'll find out how special the humans are. I don't know that the results won't be the same. But I'd like to know."

This is why I now believe DMG is on the right track. The man scares some but raises valid points in trying to improve a broken system.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:34 PM   #16
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And if none of that works - we'll throw a criss-cross-crash jump into the mix, name it Super Smashbike and run it on the infield the day-before a NASCAR Race.

THAT outta bring 'em runnin'!

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And if none of that works - we'll throw a criss-cross-crash jump into the mix, name it Super Smashbike and run it on the infield the day-before a NASCAR Race.

THAT outta bring 'em runnin'!

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Gotta start somewhere. The racing is a joke and someone's feelings will be hurt, but if you give it 2 seasons and then decide if the "fix" is broke that's way better than leaving the current system in place.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:35 PM   #18
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Gotta start somewhere. The racing is a joke and someone's feelings will be hurt, but if you give it 2 seasons and then decide if the "fix" is broke that's way better than leaving the current system in place.
From observing the empty stands at AMA road races I'd say just about any change would be an improvement.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:03 PM   #19
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Since none of us can predict the future, and since DMG has no direct experience with motorcycle racing (that I'm aware of), the question has to be: is DMG well positioned to be sucessful with this enterprise? Then you look at what they've done in similar endeavours and draw conclusions based on applicable past performance. Thus, I'd say you can expect DMG to be good at getting sponsorships, tee-vee coverage, and large audiences. But clearly, there's a lot more to what AMA does in racing than that, so, the next thing you can look at is who they bring into the game. If they find players who understand the nuances of motorcycle racing, not just in the US, but worldwide as well, people who can work well with the manufacturers and teams, and the like, then they're well positioned for creating their own expertise over time.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:14 AM   #20
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Since none of us can predict the future, and since DMG has no direct experience with motorcycle racing (that I'm aware of), the question has to be: is DMG well positioned to be sucessful with this enterprise? Then you look at what they've done in similar endeavours and draw conclusions based on applicable past performance. Thus, I'd say you can expect DMG to be good at getting sponsorships, tee-vee coverage, and large audiences. But clearly, there's a lot more to what AMA does in racing than that, so, the next thing you can look at is who they bring into the game. If they find players who understand the nuances of motorcycle racing, not just in the US, but worldwide as well, people who can work well with the manufacturers and teams, and the like, then they're well positioned for creating their own expertise over time.
Edmondson ran AMA Pro Racing and France is a "motorcycle nut"- so I believe they have a grasp on what's up with marketing a race series. It's convencing the OEMs that they can still play hard and not have to worry about footing the bill like in the past. Problem is that with money comes power and the OEMs have been running the show in Pro Racing for two decades. DMG wants to take the power away and the OEMs are scared. The biggest thing the OEMs have to get used to is letting sponsors run the promotion and letting the riders race. In the end, their cost (to make the show) should be reduced making it easier to afford more riders per team.
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