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Administrator · 11-03-2008, 03:04 PM

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MSF RiderCourse for Armed Forces

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acecycleins · 11-04-2008, 05:19 AM

Should be like a mini Keith Code class, but otherwise I'm very happy that the military is taking proactive steps in training these men and women.

ejis · 11-04-2008, 08:36 AM

It's actually more like a mini Lee Parks (Total Control) class, in a parking lot but with more "advanced" handling drills. It's surprisingly good and the instructors were well trained, even early in the life of the course. Put another way, it's a course I would have been willing to pay for.

pushrod · 11-04-2008, 09:16 AM

They (DoD) looked at Lee's course and, as I understand, he actually did a demo course for them.

They decided on a MSF-style course, with embellishment. Sort of a Beginner course, with some Experienced RiderCourse (ERC) elements thrown in.

The Navy and USMC are now requiring all riders of 'Sportbikes' to take another course. I haven't determined what, exactly, fits the bill as a 'sportbike'.

ejis · 11-04-2008, 11:31 AM

It's run through the MSF, but is beyond the ERC. It does use many of the concepts from Lee's course. Also, it looks like this is an annual requirement for sportbike riders.

They define sportbikes as "performance motorcycles with the rider in a forward leaning position and feet aft of his center of gravity". Amazingly, it seems to be a fairly reasonable definition.

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acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,129	Should be like a mini Keith Code class, but otherwise I'm very happy that the military is taking proactive steps in training these men and women. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

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pushrod Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baja 'Bama Posts: 3,635	They (DoD) looked at Lee's course and, as I understand, he actually did a demo course for them. They decided on a MSF-style course, with embellishment. Sort of a Beginner course, with some Experienced RiderCourse (ERC) elements thrown in. The Navy and USMC are now requiring all riders of 'Sportbikes' to take another course. I haven't determined what, exactly, fits the bill as a 'sportbike'. __________________ You would not understand, this is not how I am... I have become - Comfortably Numb.

11-04-2008, 11:31 AM	#5
ejis Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	It's run through the MSF, but is beyond the ERC. It does use many of the concepts from Lee's course. Also, it looks like this is an annual requirement for sportbike riders. They define sportbikes as "performance motorcycles with the rider in a forward leaning position and feet aft of his center of gravity". Amazingly, it seems to be a fairly reasonable definition. Last edited by ejis : 11-04-2008 at 11:37 AM.

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11-04-2008, 08:36 AM	#3
ejis Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 285	It's actually more like a mini Lee Parks (Total Control) class, in a parking lot but with more "advanced" handling drills. It's surprisingly good and the instructors were well trained, even early in the life of the course. Put another way, it's a course I would have been willing to pay for.