Michigan considers helmetless permits

[Buzglyd]

Originally Posted by seruzawa

My only concern is the widespread idea that society has the right to take away individual freedom because it might cause financial burden or trouble for someone else. Where do you stop? The same public health logic used to force helmet laws is also capable of justifying a totalitarian state far beyond any seen in history. It justifies the govt's ability to do literally anything and is the exact justification used by modern mass murderers... Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Pol Pot, etc. It spins out of control very rapidly and always creates more misery than it solves.

So what freedoms are okay? Which aren't? Who decides?

One thing I know for sure. People who are too stupid to wear helmets are going to off themselves in some other way if you force them to wear helmets. Stupidity cannot be banned. Especially since the people who push for and pass nanny state laws are generally amongst the stupidest you can find.

They're off the personal freedoms kick anyway.

Our lives (and our incomes) will now be controlled by "climate change."

[sarnali2]

Originally Posted by Buzglyd

They're off the personal freedoms kick anyway.

Our lives (and our incomes) will now be controlled by "climate change."

behind the 8 ball now it's pathetic. The government and Auto makers are still arguing CAFE standards for SUV's in 2020 while the whole market has experianced a paradigm shift to small cars.

They'll be lucky to survive, this is the third time the Big 3 have been bitten on the ass by this.

[Buzglyd]

Originally Posted by BrowningBAR

And it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I bet 2 of the 3 big three either go under or get bought out by the end of this.

200 a barrel by end of year would not shock me at this point. Oil heating is going to kill me this year. It will cost me between 3500 and 4500 come this winter. Two years ago it cost me 1700.

PA will be lava by then. You'll be wearing shorts.