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Old 07-03-2007, 03:55 PM   #1
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Default AMA Concerned Bout Effect of Proposed 20% Ethanol Gasoline Mix in Mn. on Harley's

"The American Motorcyclist Association has expressed concern about unanticipated consequences of proposals that might allow gas stations to increase the level of ethanol in the fuel they sell.
The difference could be significant, since burning ethanol creates more heat than conventional gasoline, which has the potential to damage air-cooled motorcycle engines." Read More
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:07 PM   #2
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The difference could be significant, since burning ethanol creates more heat than conventional gasoline, which has the potential to damage air-cooled motorcycle engines. In addition, fuel systems on bikes may be susceptible to corrosive effects of higher concentrations of ethanol in gas.

Huh? Since when does it burn significantly "hotter" in such a small-amount of blend? They're spot-on with the corrosive effects of ethanol, though (and even moreso with methanol). Mebbe if they wanted to bump the percentage up to 60-75% or so, I might buy the reasoning.

I'd say the reason they're trying to bump up the content comes from the Pro-Ethanol Lobby; currently the 10% blend doesn't get a subsidy, but I bet 20% will.................
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Yep I think you are right.. Out here in Seattle we are hearing news reports that the price of corn is up due to increased alcohol production
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A perfect example of what happens when no-nothing idiots in congress pick winners and losers instead of the market.
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A perfect example of what happens when no-nothing idiots in congress pick winners and losers instead of the market.
Oops. Beer-induced typo. Know-nothing.
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A perfect example of what happens when no-nothing idiots in congress pick winners and losers instead of the market.
Makes you think that maybe laws and policies have unintended consequences. Yet some jack-offs consistently support "doing something" about every "problem" and call people who express doubts about it gray-haired reactionaries and phobics.
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Yep I think you are right.. Out here in Seattle we are hearing news reports that the price of corn is up due to increased alcohol production
An estimated 93 million acres of Corn are set to be harvested this season - higher than previous projections, and the most Corn-acreage harvested since the end of WWII. I don't know if it will be a record harvest or not (such as '04 and '05 with ~350 Billion bushels each of those years), but a bettin' man would probably lay some money down on that presumption.........

Grain Price directly affects my facility: we use roughly 2-million bushels of Corn every year. When I took this job two years ago, it was ~$2.26/bushel for #2 Corn. I've seen it over $4.50, and right now we pay about $3.65. DIRECT impact on the price of Poultry, and we're not even that large of a Mill (we're technically an R&D facility). There's a Mill 10-miles from me that belongs to another Poultry company that processes roughly 12-times our volume yearly.
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An estimated 93 million acres of Corn are set to be harvested this season - higher than previous projections, and the most Corn-acreage harvested since the end of WWII. I don't know if it will be a record harvest or not (such as '04 and '05 with ~350 Billion bushels each of those years), but a bettin' man would probably lay some money down on that presumption.........

Grain Price directly affects my facility: we use roughly 2-million bushels of Corn every year. When I took this job two years ago, it was ~$2.26/bushel for #2 Corn. I've seen it over $4.50, and right now we pay about $3.65. DIRECT impact on the price of Poultry, and we're not even that large of a Mill (we're technically an R&D facility). There's a Mill 10-miles from me that belongs to another Poultry company that processes roughly 12-times our volume yearly.
I didn't know you worked in a tortilla factory.
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