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Electric bikes dominate MiniMoto race

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seruzawa · 05-12-2010, 01:46 PM

Anyone who understands the torque characteristics of electric motors can see their advantages. The problem is that the gasoline powered vehicles run all day while the electric ones are charging. Still a way to go before these replace gas bikes unless one is wealthy enough to own several extra batteries.

cenesdelavega · 05-13-2010, 06:18 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gas bikes were these? Are other bikes faster on a small indoor track?

I have a Zero MX, and know it is fast, but exactly how fast?

In other words, why would a racer continue riding gas bikes if the electrics are faster on a certain track?

acecycleins · 05-13-2010, 08:58 AM

Gas bikes vs e-bikes: Top end speed goes to the Gas. Grunt goes to the e-. As for faster: I think that there's a huge difference in a mini-track vs a Supercross track. Allow this race to take place on a supercross track under "main event" lap totals and your gas bikes will win.

Kevin_Duke · 05-13-2010, 09:11 AM

It also doesn't hurt that there was a talented field riding e-bikes, including World MX champ Seb Tortelli. Also, the gas-powered minibikes had lots of restrictions, including the stock carbs.

cenesdelavega · 05-13-2010, 10:38 AM

Wasn't there talent on the gas side as well? Quote:

"Keep in mind the electric bikes have their work cut out for them. Defending GEICO MMSX 16-inch class champion Burnworth is the undisputed veteran King of American mini bike racing lore, "

What does the "lot of restrictions" mean to the rest of us who aren't into the world of MX racing? (I believe the electrics were all "stock" as well BTW ).

How do these 150s stack up to other 150s and other classes in performance? - Sorry for my ignorance.

The_AirHawk · 05-13-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

It also doesn't hurt that there was a talented field riding e-bikes, including World MX champ Seb Tortelli. Also, the gas-powered minibikes had lots of restrictions, including the stock carbs.

Oh, so there was "no deck stacking allowed" in this race.

Not.

seruzawa · 05-13-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The_AirHawk

Oh, so there was "no deck stacking allowed" in this race.

Not.

Makes the whole thing a bit of a joke, doesn't it?

pplassm · 05-17-2010, 11:08 AM

Actually, I think it's an interesting step in electric bike development. Things will develop, and get better, or not. I'd still like to have a cheap one to bop around the backyard.

cenesdelavega · 05-18-2010, 10:47 PM

"Interesting step" - could be historic as you look back. For instance the big electric GP bikes are still way behind their gas brethren, but in the MX world, at least some gas bikes are now obsolete on some tracks. (150cc 4 stroke on short tracks). Zero has a new motor (the Agni) in their road bikes that is a lot stronger than the Perm motor currently used in their MX - could be trouble for the next class (250cc 4 stroke)? When will the madness end?

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seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,410	Anyone who understands the torque characteristics of electric motors can see their advantages. The problem is that the gasoline powered vehicles run all day while the electric ones are charging. Still a way to go before these replace gas bikes unless one is wealthy enough to own several extra batteries. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord!

05-13-2010, 06:18 AM	#3
cenesdelavega Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5	Are gas bikes dead for racing? Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gas bikes were these? Are other bikes faster on a small indoor track? I have a Zero MX, and know it is fast, but exactly how fast? In other words, why would a racer continue riding gas bikes if the electrics are faster on a certain track?

05-13-2010, 08:58 AM	#4
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,129	Gas bikes vs e-bikes: Top end speed goes to the Gas. Grunt goes to the e-. As for faster: I think that there's a huge difference in a mini-track vs a Supercross track. Allow this race to take place on a supercross track under "main event" lap totals and your gas bikes will win. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

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pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Actually, I think it's an interesting step in electric bike development. Things will develop, and get better, or not. I'd still like to have a cheap one to bop around the backyard. __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

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05-13-2010, 09:11 AM	#5
Kevin_Duke Motorcycle.com Staff Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,065	It also doesn't hurt that there was a talented field riding e-bikes, including World MX champ Seb Tortelli. Also, the gas-powered minibikes had lots of restrictions, including the stock carbs.

05-13-2010, 10:38 AM	#6
cenesdelavega Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5	Wasn't there talent on the gas side as well? Quote: "Keep in mind the electric bikes have their work cut out for them. Defending GEICO MMSX 16-inch class champion Burnworth is the undisputed veteran King of American mini bike racing lore, " What does the "lot of restrictions" mean to the rest of us who aren't into the world of MX racing? (I believe the electrics were all "stock" as well BTW ). How do these 150s stack up to other 150s and other classes in performance? - Sorry for my ignorance.

05-18-2010, 10:47 PM	#10
cenesdelavega Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5	Next - 250cc? "Interesting step" - could be historic as you look back. For instance the big electric GP bikes are still way behind their gas brethren, but in the MX world, at least some gas bikes are now obsolete on some tracks. (150cc 4 stroke on short tracks). Zero has a new motor (the Agni) in their road bikes that is a lot stronger than the Perm motor currently used in their MX - could be trouble for the next class (250cc 4 stroke)? When will the madness end?