Go Back   Motorcycle Forum > Motorcycle.Com General Discussion > Motorcycle News

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-02-2009, 12:47 PM   #1
Administrator
Administrator

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: On My Bike
Posts: 1
Default York H-D union agrees to huge job cuts


Original Article:
York H-D union agrees to huge job cuts

Please discuss the Motorcycle.com article York H-D union agrees to huge job cuts in our Motorcycle Forums below. Use the reply button to let others know your comments or feedback on the article. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, along with your thoughts and personal opinions on the bikes and products we have tested.
Administrator is offline   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements
Motorcycle Forum
Advertisement
Old 12-02-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
longride
Super Duper Mod Man

 
longride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Anywhere they let me
Posts: 10,479
Default

Those job cuts were going to happen regardless of any Union agreement. I guess it was a formality.
__________________
I'm a knucklehead
longride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 01:11 PM   #3
sarnali2
Aging Cafe` Racer

 
sarnali2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain.
Posts: 8,719
Default

That's the way it's going now, these corporations are all playing hardball with their negotiations. Kinda' odd with the country going socialist.

From what I've read Harley is getting spanked so hard because of bad loans. It's their Eaglemark Bank that's taking them down coupled with bike sales being off industry wide. I guess handing out 15% 84 month loans to people with bad credit wasn't such a good idea after all.
__________________
"Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives"

"He said he's farting because of his medication"...
sarnali2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 01:15 PM   #4
seruzawa
The Toad

 
seruzawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: 8501 ft.
Posts: 17,461
Default

Looks like that Union organizing stuff that works pretty good in prosperous times but doesn't work worth spit in a recession. HD'll move the plant to "right-to-work" Kentucky anyhow. Wanna bet?

This is happening all over. New York and California with their overtly anti-business political structures are collapsing economically. States like Utah and Texas with more business friendly environments are reaping big gains from those kicked-in-the-head States.
__________________
"Make no mistake, Communism lost a big argument - one we know today as the 20th century."

Last edited by seruzawa : 12-02-2009 at 01:20 PM.
seruzawa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 02:41 PM   #5
mugwump58
Registered Member
 
mugwump58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: 43.47N-76.48W
Posts: 590
Default

Jobs will be gone next quarter
__________________
STN refugee
mugwump58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2009, 04:45 PM   #6
mscuddy
MODERATOR X

 
mscuddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Next to my still checkin the temp.
Posts: 5,449
Default

Just wait 'till Harley starts selling those Hyosung-based ATK's with Harley Davidson stickers on the tank!

There will be lines around the block to get inside and purchase one of the Asian-Anglo-Euro machines, with fist-fights breaking out on the showroom floor to see who gets one first!

Oh happy days are here again! Can't ya just feel it? We're saved by the insight of several marketing genius types at HD's design division!

Who needs a Buell with that old skunky Sportster motor? Give me a tin-plated Suzuki knockoff with some guady chrome doo-dads on it!

YEAH HARLEY!
__________________
A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
mscuddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 03:31 AM   #7
longride
Super Duper Mod Man

 
longride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Anywhere they let me
Posts: 10,479
Default

"States like Utah and Texas with more business friendly environments are reaping big gains from those kicked-in-the-head States."

You mean 'business friendly like this??

Wal-Mart to pay $40M to workers in Mass. - Yahoo! News

Classic statement:

"Resolving this litigation is in the best interest of our company, our shareholders and our associates. These cases were filed years ago, and the allegations are not representative of the company we are today," Wal-Mart spokeswoman Daphne Moore said.

So what kind of company are they today? Better??
__________________
I'm a knucklehead
longride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 06:12 AM   #8
A Star Ride
Registered Member
 
A Star Ride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: central Va
Posts: 1,126
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_AirHawk View Post
Do you have a Job?

Does it pay you in money (as opposed to "blow" or vegetables)?

Are you breathing?

Well then, COME ON DOWN TO HARLEY-DAVIDSON! We got Road Glydes, we got Electra Glydes, and we got Astro-Glyde! (to help with the insertion of the MSRP)

Don't miss the LAST CHANCE (this week) to get yourself on a New Harley - and Get yer Fag on..............









(all sales final. 15%APR is for qualified buyers only. qualified buyers may ride-away with their dignity mostly-intact. unqualified buyers may qualify to finance a t-shirt. some on-sale models may be Girly-Bike Sportsters. not everyone who qualifies for financing should be riding so much as a tricycle. rinse, lather, repeat. if I had to explain, you wouldn't understand. somebody stop me; before I subreference again.)

thanks, I needed that laugh this morning but H-D had been raping their customer base for 7 or 10+ years selling the bikes so far above fair market value (as determined by H-D themselves) that now they are selling them at a fair price but people that bought a bike from them 2 years ago now have the old motor, old chasis, and still owe more then the new redesigned model is selling for.
Yes, accepted lending practices also had alot to do with it no dobut but the lending leniency coupled with the overnight reduction in the value has caused alot of problems at the bank. there may be a suprlus of new and year old repos soon. I have to credit H-D for being able to create such a desire for their bikes in the first place but the harley market crashed just like real estate.
__________________
White Trash Hick from Appalachia
A Star Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 06:16 AM   #9
longride
Super Duper Mod Man

 
longride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Anywhere they let me
Posts: 10,479
Default

"but H-D had been raping their customer base for 7 or 10+ years selling the bikes so far above fair market value (as determined by H-D themselves)"

So if they were above 'fair market value', how exactly did they sell any? I don't want to say that this was a stupid statement until you answer.
__________________
I'm a knucklehead
longride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 06:59 AM   #10
A Star Ride
Registered Member
 
A Star Ride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: central Va
Posts: 1,126
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by longride View Post
"but H-D had been raping their customer base for 7 or 10+ years selling the bikes so far above fair market value (as determined by H-D themselves)"

So if they were above 'fair market value', how exactly did they sell any? I don't want to say that this was a stupid statement until you answer.
I guess anything is worth what you can get for it, as they clearly demonstrated but the hindsight now they could've been a little more reasonable in their pricing then and it woludnt be affecting them as much now. cant blame someone with a 07 or 08 electra owing 20K being bitter when the 2010's are sitting there right now for 21K. I know locally theres alot for sale for more then the dealer is wanting for a new one. also the waiting list is gone
__________________
White Trash Hick from Appalachia
A Star Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off