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Old 10-16-2009, 10:01 AM   #41
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The problem was the whole Buell brand in the first place. They should have called them Sportsters. The Sporty was always supposed to be Harleys performance bike and the Buell is that concept in reality. The current edition of the Sportster would then become a Roadster and marketed that way with the low seats and all that crap.

That eliminates the whole antipathy between HD and their dealers about getting Buell jammed down their throats, they can display them as Harley Sportbikes, HD only guys that wanted a hot rod would have it right there in front of them.......the clouds would part, angels would sing, the streets would be paved with gold coins and cagers would pull over and park in shame as the faithful rode by...........

well maybe not but they still should be Sportsters. HD has it's head up it's ass as usual.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:04 AM   #42
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JB said it best when he compaired a 10 year old SV650 with a milk crate bungied to the seat, and smelling of cat urine, vs. a 10 year old CITY X lovingly cared for, and quite rare. Guess he was right.

From someone whose ridden about everything on two wheels, that City X was the bees knees. Just the look of the tucked in forks (short tracker) and the 50 inch wheelbase made me want to ride it all the time. Like I said before, it handled like a dream. And that old XR1000 based Sporty lump was plenty fast for me.

R.I.P. Buell.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:23 AM   #43
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The problem was the whole Buell brand in the first place. They should have called them Sportsters. The Sporty was always supposed to be Harleys performance bike and the Buell is that concept in reality. The current edition of the Sportster would then become a Roadster and marketed that way with the low seats and all that crap.

That eliminates the whole antipathy between HD and their dealers about getting Buell jammed down their throats, they can display them as Harley Sportbikes, HD only guys that wanted a hot rod would have it right there in front of them.......the clouds would part, angels would sing, the streets would be paved with gold coins and cagers would pull over and park in shame as the faithful rode by...........

well maybe not but they still should be Sportsters. HD has it's head up it's ass as usual.
The only problem with your analysis is that too many HD dealers don't even like to sell Sportsters.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:25 AM   #44
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The only problem with your analysis is that too many HD dealers don't even like to sell Sportsters.

You talkin' bout them girl's bikes?
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:34 AM   #45
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I personally think this is a small step into what will emerge as greater difficulties in the future for Harley Davidson long term. Where does this leave the motor company? What innovative ideas will they develop with such a rigid structure? Wrap it up anyway you like, the company still has no vision to get beyond the baby boomer population in what is soon to become a passé cruiser market... I'm sorry Eric got caught up in all this but he did have a good run at living out his passion for a long time as not everyone always has that opportunity. Hope he tucked some of those earnings away. If not, any of us impacted by this economy can show him how use more beans than beef in your chili to stretch it further…
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They seem to sell pretty well around here, we have a lot of short people I guess
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They seem to sell pretty well around here, we have a lot of short people I guess
People out there seem to be short on lots of things
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #48
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The problem was the whole Buell brand in the first place. They should have called them Sportsters. The Sporty was always supposed to be Harleys performance bike and the Buell is that concept in reality. The current edition of the Sportster would then become a Roadster and marketed that way with the low seats and all that crap.

That eliminates the whole antipathy between HD and their dealers about getting Buell jammed down their throats, they can display them as Harley Sportbikes, HD only guys that wanted a hot rod would have it right there in front of them.......the clouds would part, angels would sing, the streets would be paved with gold coins and cagers would pull over and park in shame as the faithful rode by...........

well maybe not but they still should be Sportsters. HD has it's head up it's ass as usual.
I know 2 or 3 guys that thought the only thing Buell was good for - was cylinder-heads for their Girlsters.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:01 AM   #49
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I've owned my Y2K Cyclone since it was new. It's a unique, fun bike and I'm sorry HD is pulling the plug on the company. That said, I never really warmed to the XB line, and apparently, not enough other people did either.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:21 AM   #50
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I personally think this is a small step into what will emerge as greater difficulties in the future for Harley Davidson long term. Where does this leave the motor company? What innovative ideas will they develop with such a rigid structure? Wrap it up anyway you like, the company still has no vision to get beyond the baby boomer population in what is soon to become a passé cruiser market... I'm sorry Eric got caught up in all this but he did have a good run at living out his passion for a long time as not everyone always has that opportunity. Hope he tucked some of those earnings away. If not, any of us impacted by this economy can show him how use more beans than beef in your chili to stretch it further…
You might be too young to remember everyone babbling the exact same thing about Harley in the late 60's through the 80's. "Only old Shiners and Hell's Angels will buy Harleys. Their market has no future. Their product is irrelevant to today's buyers."

Same ****, different day. I don't want a Harley these days, but I have no doubt they will remain a huge player in the US market. They are unique in so many ways...what other brand comes close to HD in terms of owner loyalty and fanaticism?
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