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Old 04-13-2009, 12:51 PM   #1
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:07 PM   #2
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Not sure what the point is then...
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:32 PM   #3
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What about NAStyCAR?
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Old 04-13-2009, 02:56 PM   #4
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What about NAStyCAR?
Not sure the point of it either. "Stock" Car? Its a car but thats about the end of the relationship with what was once stock... Not one single stock item on any of them anywhere. Then the lack of tech I'm not sure what they are developing either.

F1, Moto GP - experimental, understand significance.
Touring car / sports car / wsb/ wss dmg etc - Modified existing vehicles - understand...

MOTO2 - chassis testing or just a means to cut teeth for motogp?
Nascar - Uh... everyone build the same car and slap a manufacturer sticker on it.
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:19 PM   #5
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I can see what they are trying to do, but which engine are they going to pick? Won't the other manufacturers scream bloody murder?
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:02 PM   #6
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Hate to say I told ya so...

Someone ring up our South American Finn and let him know that the pinnacle of middleweight "prototype" roadracing is using a spec engine.

Frankly, it doesn't make all that much difference; all the production 600s have identical bore & stroke dimensions. Just pick one and tune the crap out of it.

This whole thing is about lowering escalating costs. One supplier means little to no money spent on development and virtual engine parity. F*ck, there was even a claiming rule.They're clearly hoping that chassis development wins the day.

The manufacturers are not driving this class. Some teams have already builty their own bikes--a la the Team Roberts, Moriwaki, etc.--and are racing (testing) them in the Spanish CEV series and the like.

It's pretty clear that the manufacturers didn't really want much to do with Moto2. This gets them off the hook, more or less, completely. Moto2 is basically a developmental series for riders and, to a lesser extent, teams. Although, that's pretty much what the 250cc class had become anyway, since Honda and KTM had basically stopped development.

I doubt it will be too use any of the Big 4 engines, being that they're all pretty similar.

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Old 04-13-2009, 07:40 PM   #7
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"The move to switch to a single engine provider was proposed by the Motorcycle Sport Manufacturers Association which represents all the manufacturers competing in Grand Prix road racing.". Hmmm. Imagine the cost savings.

It would be nice to think that we'll see some really trick inovative suspension and frame stuff.

The go advanced thing doesn't really work so well, does it.
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"The move to switch to a single engine provider was proposed by the Motorcycle Sport Manufacturers Association which represents all the manufacturers competing in Grand Prix road racing.". Hmmm. Imagine the cost savings.

It would be nice to think that we'll see some really trick inovative suspension and frame stuff.

The go advanced thing doesn't really work so well, does it.
That reisling doesn't seem to help either.
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Remember all the specialized frame builders back in the 70s and 80s. Bimota comes to mind. The point is that the class is as expensive as GP, practically. If you have one spec motor (Like the KTM rookies cup) but have several frame builders then cost comes down. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but if you make every one build a 600 prototype motor you would see several manufacturers drop out- like Aprilia. So, the option was clear. Step forward with technology and step backward to involve specialty frame and suspension builders.
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Remember all the specialized frame builders back in the 70s and 80s. Bimota comes to mind. The point is that the class is as expensive as GP, practically. If you have one spec motor (Like the KTM rookies cup) but have several frame builders then cost comes down. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but if you make every one build a 600 prototype motor you would see several manufacturers drop out- like Aprilia. So, the option was clear. Step forward with technology and step backward to involve specialty frame and suspension builders.
Actually it's all a nefarious plot to eliminate the triple from racing. Big4 freaking hates that thing. I'll bet they called in every card in the smoke filled room for this one.. to get a spec 600-4. (que X-files music)
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