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Old 12-05-2008, 01:01 PM   #1
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:21 PM   #2
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Barney is a great privateer. If Barnes and Higbee race Daytona and Moto-ST classes it would be quite a site.

Road racing world just posted this:


AMA Pro Racing Tire Test
Daytona International Speedway
Daytona Beach, Florida
December 5, 2008
Daytona SportBike Provisional Test Times (all on Dunlop tires, as supplied by AMA Pro Racing and teams):

1. Ben Bostrom (Yam YZF-R6), 1:50.630
2. Martin Cardenas (Suz GSX-R600), 1:51.012
3. Jake Zemke (Hon CBR600RR), 1:52.214
4. Josh Hayes (Yam YZF-R6), 1:52.284
5. Cory West (Suz GSX-R600), 1:52.337
6. Josh Herrin (Yam YZF-R6), 1:52.9
7. Shawn Higbee (Buell 1125R), 1:53.205
8. Michael Barnes (Buell 1125R), 1:53.26
9. Tommy Aquino (Yam YZF-R6), 1:53.7
10. Blake Young (Suz GSX-R600), 1:53.729
11. Chris Peris (Hon CBR600RR), 1:55.164

Look- brand new Buell's just 2.5 sec off lead, but only 1 sec off Josh Hayes' R6. Not a bad first time out.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:41 PM   #3
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Okay. I'm gonna show my racing ignorance. What is the justification for having a 1125cc bike race against 600cc machines? I don't understand. One might think that bikes of similar displacement race against each other. And what gives that the bikes with almost twice the displacement are so far behind?
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:17 PM   #4
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Google "volumetric efficiency" and you will learn all you need to know.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:55 PM   #5
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Google "volumetric efficiency" and you will learn all you need to know.
Which is how drag racing is done. Racing classes are totally arbitrary. Racing by displacement is one way.. volumetric efficiency another.... neither is superior. But when the AMA Supersport series ends up where all the bikes have exactly the same bore and stroke something's gotta be done.

Hmm, exactly the same bore and stroke. Isn't that like the old Formula V series where everyone was required to run bone stock VW engines? Cheap but a lot of fun.
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I'm really happy to see an American bike competing in the Daytona 200 under any rules. It's been a long time since HD gave up with Carr in what, 97? And, Mr. Barnes is a Boca guy; so even though I only work in Boca and don't live here (any more) he's still a "hometown" competitor.

Here's the Klazy Ken Racing Rules: Set the classes by the price that the bike can be purchased for by any typical buyer. Sort of like "homologation" but with a real-world emphasis. It's really not such a stretch in my mind, and talk about "Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday!" Some sort of parameters on how many units have to be available and similar stuff would have to be set, but it couldn't be any more complicated than what they have today. And I think the fans would love it!
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:06 PM   #7
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"And I think the fans would love it!"

And the Japanese would never ever go for it!
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"And I think the fans would love it!"

And the Japanese would never ever go for it!
I don't know about that. The Japanese beat everyone on price point. I think Klazy Ken has a brilliant idea. You could see BMW F650s going head to head with CBR600s. Just the entertainment value of seeing CBR pilots avoiding the BMW obstacles at 60 mph closure rates would be worth the price of admission.

Klazy Ken. Let us know when you are ready for seed money.
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Barney is a great privateer. If Barnes and Higbee race Daytona and Moto-ST classes it would be quite a site.

Road racing world just posted this:


AMA Pro Racing Tire Test
Daytona International Speedway
Daytona Beach, Florida
December 5, 2008
Daytona SportBike Provisional Test Times (all on Dunlop tires, as supplied by AMA Pro Racing and teams):

1. Ben Bostrom (Yam YZF-R6), 1:50.630
2. Martin Cardenas (Suz GSX-R600), 1:51.012
3. Jake Zemke (Hon CBR600RR), 1:52.214
4. Josh Hayes (Yam YZF-R6), 1:52.284
5. Cory West (Suz GSX-R600), 1:52.337
6. Josh Herrin (Yam YZF-R6), 1:52.9
7. Shawn Higbee (Buell 1125R), 1:53.205
8. Michael Barnes (Buell 1125R), 1:53.26
9. Tommy Aquino (Yam YZF-R6), 1:53.7
10. Blake Young (Suz GSX-R600), 1:53.729
11. Chris Peris (Hon CBR600RR), 1:55.164

Look- brand new Buell's just 2.5 sec off lead, but only 1 sec off Josh Hayes' R6. Not a bad first time out.
Would have expected the Buells to be beating the 600'z first time out,being that they have such a displacment advantage. Glad to see them so close though, that will make for better racing, for sure.

Was Jeremy McWilliams at this test? Any times? You ask me I think they should add Dave Estok as the thrid rider, fast as shyt!~
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Google "volumetric efficiency" and you will learn all you need to know.

Great answer!
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