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Old 08-21-2008, 11:47 AM   #31
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Is too late to suggest chopsticks?
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:48 PM   #32
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The only way to tell if a suspension mod improves things is to time laps. If the mod results in faster laps then it's a good mod. If not then it's a bad mod. A bike can "feel" faster but actually "be" slower. Unless lap times can be proven to improve then opinions about mods are just that... opinions.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:00 PM   #33
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:02 PM   #34
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All this and Longride can't even be blamed for starting the argument. I believe this is a Forum record!

Although...no one has ever actually seen Sachi and Longride at the same time, have they?
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:08 PM   #35
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All this and Longride can't even be blamed for starting the argument. I believe this is a Forum record!

Although...no one has ever actually seen Sachi and Longride at the same time, have they?
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:01 PM   #36
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Thats strange the few I have talked to about it say it feels like it turns easier and quicker.
There you have the Devil by detail(sic) - "feels like". If the motorcycle inspires confidence in you - it's gonna "feel" whatever you think is making you fast.

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Dont you realise that things tested and learned on race tracks end up on showroom floors? Manufactures make suttle changes
directly implamented on the racetrack, have you seen this latley its ashtonishing? Its been going on since the dawn of mtorcycling?
Uh, I'm not certain how to respond to the obvious here. Would it help to explain that I already knew this, and (albeit only peripherally) referred somewhat to this in my previous post?

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Airhawk? Iam not sure what dumb down means maybe you should explain that one?
Make the bike LESS responsive or "twitchy" and more-stable, which would inspire a bit more confidence in a rider that felt a particular bike was too-uncontrollable. As I said before - if you FEEL the bike inspires confidence, you're gonna go faster on it. Even if a superior bike has the POTENTIAL to go faster than one you feel confident on, you'll lap quicker on the bike you like better. Why? Because you don't have to THINK about the bike - just ride the damn thing.

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Also explain how a steering dampner can make the bike turn in quicker?
I didn't say it would turn-in quicker. I said it would do the same thing as increasing trail - make the bike more stable.

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If Iam 3 whole secounds off the pace, Iam looking for any advantage I can get? Our lap record is 1:15
Iam not sure I should be taking advice from you unless you can muster anything close to these times though really;]
Well, you see - that's where you've made the biggest mistake of all in this conversation - I'm not offering advice: merely an Opinion. I'm also not a professional racer, nor am I a suspension expert. You kinda-sorta came to the wrong place (i.e. teh Internets) if you're lookin' for either of those....................
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:22 PM   #37
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how your theory works. You want to persuade me, do that. Otherwise I have no reason to change my belief that raising the bike (which is what you propose to do, no?) will have an adverse effect on the handling of the bike.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:28 PM   #38
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All this and Longride can't even be blamed for starting the argument. I believe this is a Forum record!

Although...no one has ever actually seen Sachi and Longride at the same time, have they?
Well, they both like Motorcycles; they both like Women; Sachi - do you like Beer?
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They both live near a large body of water...
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:48 PM   #40
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Sachi - do you like Beer?
Yeah, I do. My tastes change a bit over time; I used to be all over really strong dark beers (a la Guiness), then I moved to German and Czech Pilsners back in the days when Lowenbrau was still imported (it is again, thankfully), then I went to microbrews with the occasional Guiness, and now I'm back to pilsners.

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