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pushrod · 02-25-2008, 02:29 PM

"MO: Some of us lube after rides, some before. What’s the difference?

BC: The reason we say lubing the chain after the ride as opposed to before is that a warm chain will more easily accept lubrication into the critical pin and bushing area. But, if it’s not convenient to do after the ride, then a little before will be better than none at all."
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Once again, we get a guy saying that spraying some slippery stuff on our warm chain will somehow get past the O, X, Z-ring and lubricate the pin and bushing.

Bull feathers!

How much time and money goes into designing those alphabet rings so that NOTHING gets by them in either direction, whilst creating a minimum of friction?

One more time, you clean and "oil" a chain to keep it pretty, minimize corrosion and to remove grit from the external surfaces and the sprockets.

The only thing you can do for the pins and bushings is to ensure the chain tension is correct. OK, there is another thing: DO NOT direct a jet of air or water at the chain. You can drive contamination or water, or both past the seals if you try hard enough.

I'd like to throw in that I'm a fan of the Dupont Teflon Multi-use Lubricant in an 11oz. spray can. $6 or so, available at various places, including Lowe's hardware and on Amazon (except the S&H is another $9). It's slicker than owl feces, it's dry, and it's clear. What little gets flung off makes nowhere near the mess the waxes or stringy stuff does, and it cleans off readily with WD-40. I use it every 400-500 miles.

So much for my "Quick Reply!"

sarnali2 · 02-25-2008, 06:10 PM

All I do is spray the chain with penetrating oil, wipe it clean then squirt some 75/90 Synthetic gear oil on it, let it drip for awhile then wipe off the excess. It's a little messy but it's cheap and effective, and the recommended method from Regina, DID RK etc. I've used Pro Honda clear lube in the past but plain ol' gear oil works the best.

Modern chains are basically maintenance free, just keep them clean and a oil them once in awhile to keep surface rust off them and you're good to go

vermicious · 02-25-2008, 06:30 PM

I use Ken's patented salt water treatment.

The_AirHawk · 02-25-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vermicious

Last edited by vermicious : Today at 08:31 PM. Reason: stupid profanity filter doesn't like salt water as one word

Well, at least it's no-longer censoring pet**** yet still letting ****sucker through. Everything is an equal-opportunity-offender.

seruzawa · 02-25-2008, 08:03 PM

Chain lube? What's that? Oh yeah. That's that stuff I spray on when the chain gets louder than the exhaust.

longride · 02-26-2008, 05:59 AM

Chain oil threads are much like engine oil threads. It all works if you have some common sense, and it doesn't matter if you use the expensive, fancy can oil or just squirt engine oil on it and wipe it off. It all works the same. Only the price and braggin' rights at the Burger Barn will differ.

mscuddy · 02-26-2008, 07:44 AM

I buy the cheapest chains possible and keep them scrupulosly (sic) clean, and boil them in used crancase drippings from my wife's Hondacar. Don't need no stinking o-ring, x-ring or fancy-smancy chains. Also use a quality chain lube like JT. I have never had a chain fail (except back in the bad old days when my 25+ hp AT1MX would throw the dinky 428 through the cases on a regular basis).

bbtowns · 02-28-2008, 09:15 AM

Does know one do their own work anymore? Changing a chain and sprockets is one of those things you ought to be able to do on your own. Yeah, I know, everyone likes to ride not wrench, two mutually exclusive concepts.

longride · 02-28-2008, 09:37 AM

bbtowns is correct. People should do their own basic maintenance on their bikes. It is getting so bad that everyone wants to be like Buz; all play and no work! I am swapping out the sprockets, chain and rear tire on the Bandit as we speak. Now if it will just quit f&cking snowing!

02-25-2008, 12:07 PM	#1
Administrator Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On My Bike Posts: 0	Chain and Sprockets Swap Original Article: <a href="http://www.motorcycle.com//how-to/chain-and-sprockets-swap-75942.html">Chain and Sprockets Swap</a> Please discuss the Motorcycle.com article Chain and Sprockets Swap in our Motorcycle Forums below. Use the reply button to let others know your comments or feedback on the article. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, along with your thoughts and personal opinions on the bikes and products we have tested.

02-25-2008, 02:29 PM	#2
pushrod Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baja 'Bama Posts: 3,635	"MO: Some of us lube after rides, some before. What’s the difference? BC: The reason we say lubing the chain after the ride as opposed to before is that a warm chain will more easily accept lubrication into the critical pin and bushing area. But, if it’s not convenient to do after the ride, then a little before will be better than none at all." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Once again, we get a guy saying that spraying some slippery stuff on our warm chain will somehow get past the O, X, Z-ring and lubricate the pin and bushing. Bull feathers! How much time and money goes into designing those alphabet rings so that NOTHING gets by them in either direction, whilst creating a minimum of friction? One more time, you clean and "oil" a chain to keep it pretty, minimize corrosion and to remove grit from the external surfaces and the sprockets. The only thing you can do for the pins and bushings is to ensure the chain tension is correct. OK, there is another thing: DO NOT direct a jet of air or water at the chain. You can drive contamination or water, or both past the seals if you try hard enough. I'd like to throw in that I'm a fan of the Dupont Teflon Multi-use Lubricant in an 11oz. spray can. $6 or so, available at various places, including Lowe's hardware and on Amazon (except the S&H is another $9). It's slicker than owl feces, it's dry, and it's clear. What little gets flung off makes nowhere near the mess the waxes or stringy stuff does, and it cleans off readily with WD-40. I use it every 400-500 miles. So much for my "Quick Reply!" __________________ You would not understand, this is not how I am... I have become - Comfortably Numb. Last edited by pushrod : 02-25-2008 at 02:31 PM. Reason: "Only" is a strong word...

02-25-2008, 06:10 PM	#3
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,648	All I do is spray the chain with penetrating oil, wipe it clean then squirt some 75/90 Synthetic gear oil on it, let it drip for awhile then wipe off the excess. It's a little messy but it's cheap and effective, and the recommended method from Regina, DID RK etc. I've used Pro Honda clear lube in the past but plain ol' gear oil works the best. Modern chains are basically maintenance free, just keep them clean and a oil them once in awhile to keep surface rust off them and you're good to go __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "Denser alloy. My Father gave it to me, I think he wants me to kill you"... CVF-FCV

02-25-2008, 06:30 PM	#4
vermicious Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, MD Posts: 552	I use Ken's patented salt water treatment. Last edited by vermicious : 02-25-2008 at 06:31 PM. Reason: stupid profanity filter doesn't like salt water as one word

02-25-2008, 08:03 PM	#6
seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,403	Chain lube? What's that? Oh yeah. That's that stuff I spray on when the chain gets louder than the exhaust. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord!

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02-26-2008, 05:59 AM	#7
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Chain oil threads are much like engine oil threads. It all works if you have some common sense, and it doesn't matter if you use the expensive, fancy can oil or just squirt engine oil on it and wipe it off. It all works the same. Only the price and braggin' rights at the Burger Barn will differ. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

02-26-2008, 07:44 AM	#8
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	I buy the cheapest chains possible and keep them scrupulosly (sic) clean, and boil them in used crancase drippings from my wife's Hondacar. Don't need no stinking o-ring, x-ring or fancy-smancy chains. Also use a quality chain lube like JT. I have never had a chain fail (except back in the bad old days when my 25+ hp AT1MX would throw the dinky 428 through the cases on a regular basis). __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

02-28-2008, 09:15 AM	#9
bbtowns Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 540	Does know one do their own work anymore? Changing a chain and sprockets is one of those things you ought to be able to do on your own. Yeah, I know, everyone likes to ride not wrench, two mutually exclusive concepts. __________________ What kind of man can abandon his family like that? Seriously, who is he, I'd like lessons.

02-28-2008, 09:37 AM	#10
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	bbtowns is correct. People should do their own basic maintenance on their bikes. It is getting so bad that everyone wants to be like Buz; all play and no work! I am swapping out the sprockets, chain and rear tire on the Bandit as we speak. Now if it will just quit f&cking snowing! __________________ I'm a knucklehead