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Old 09-19-2008, 12:29 PM   #11
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The latest Motorcyclist has an article on the Piaggio MP3, the Bombardier, and a gawd-awful F1-fornicated-with-a-R1200 looking four-wheeler.

They didn't have much nice to say about the last two. The biggest complaint was the weird tracking and hard steering, followed by the bump-steer issue.

They really liked the Piaggio. They especially liked the ability to really throw the bike into a corner, because with the front twin tires, you really have to try to lose the front.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:46 PM   #12
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The latest Motorcyclist has an article on the Piaggio MP3, the Bombardier, and a gawd-awful F1-fornicated-with-a-R1200 looking four-wheeler.

They didn't have much nice to say about the last two. The biggest complaint was the weird tracking and hard steering, followed by the bump-steer issue.

They really liked the Piaggio. They especially liked the ability to really throw the bike into a corner, because with the front twin tires, you really have to try to lose the front.
What do you expect out of a bunch of motorcyclist? Let the ATV rags test the last two vehicles and then formulate an opinion. Bet they give a different view point.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:51 PM   #13
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They didn't have much nice to say about the last two. The biggest complaint was the weird tracking and hard steering, followed by the bump-steer issue.
The best part was when they said that the 4 wheeler would be just terrific if you could put the engine ahead of or behind the rider, instead of under the rider. "But then it would be a car."
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:20 PM   #14
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I actually think it's pretty cool looking. I suppose they went with the air cooled twin to simplify design, the Vrod would of course require a fairly large radiator. Still doable and it could be integrated into the front end without any trouble. I'd like to see them build a few.

The '80's water cooled bikes were v-4's called Nova's and were fairly innovative supposedly being capable of 135hp using an underseat radiator & fan and the engine as a stressed frame member. I wish they would have stuck too them, It had AMF's backing and was supposed to replace the Shovelhead. What killed the project was The CEO of AMF retired and with him went the enthusiasm for the project and HD as a whole, the gang of 13 organized the buy-out and the Evolution engine and belt drive became the Shovelhead replacement first seen in the '84 FXST. Too bad really the Nova engine was a giant leap forward for HD, not that they've done so bad with the air-cooled engines.........
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:11 PM   #15
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Just one thing to note, this patent application was filed over two years ago yet no such bike has yet been seen in the flesh so it may not be a real prospect for a production vehicle. MCN in the UK keep quoting published patent applications as evidence of the latest news. However, its takes 18 months for patent applications to get published so they are not really evidence of the latest cutting edge research.

For Europe anyway, the width of the front end would obviate most of the advantages of a bike, particularly the loss of the ability to filter through traffic. However, I do have a hankering for a Piaggio MP3 (or a Gilera Fuoco as they are called over here) but think that they are underpowered for their weight, so the idea of a similar design with decent powerplant is appealing. I think the concept of two front wheels for added grip while still having the handling of a bike would be interesting.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:38 PM   #16
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It was worth going to but I thought it was a little overpriced for what it was. I've heard some people say that it's too industrial, but I thought it was nice nice architecture. That being said, I'm one of the few who likes the UIC campus in Chicago (built in the "Brutalism" school of architecture - no kidding). Motorcycle parking is free throughout Milwaukee, or so I've been told.

If you go, make sure to visit the Milwaukee Art Museum. The building alone (Calatrava's first building in the US - it's amazing) is worth seeing and there is a very good collection of Eastern European Art. Makes a good trip.
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