Where do all the 650cc bikes go?

[ngn]

Hi folks,

I've been looking for a Ninja 650R/SV650. I noticed that none of the dealerships around the SF bay area have any. In fact I couldn't find even one to get an idea about how they feel. Any idea why the general paucity of these models? Do they really sell that fast? Also, when do new year models generally come out? I was wondering if the 2009 models are about to be launched and the dealers simply don't want to get any more '08 models.


~ngn

[seruzawa]

I suspect it's because bike sales are very strong this year and the manufacturers aren't producing a lot of extra bikes. They all got burned badly in the 1980s and aren't going to glut the market. Since gas prices are falling expect the general panic to subside next year.

[Kenneth_Moore]

Originally Posted by seruzawa

Since gas prices are falling expect the general panic to subside next year.

You don't really think gas prices are going anywhere but up, do you? As far as I can tell, there is a clear cycle to the pricing: raise the prices to where they're all over the news and everybody screams. Keep them there for a few months, then ease them back down to about halfway between the previous average. Then they creep up slowly for a while, then wham, big jump again. Then it starts over. The prices have done this steadily since they were under $2. I'm guessing the next big jump will be up to $5 or so, probably during the winter when the heating oil demand can be the excuse.

[BrowningBAR]

Originally Posted by Kenneth_Moore

You don't really think gas prices are going anywhere but up, do you? As far as I can tell, there is a clear cycle to the pricing: raise the prices to where they're all over the news and everybody screams. Keep them there for a few months, then ease them back down to about halfway between the previous average. Then they creep up slowly for a while, then wham, big jump again. Then it starts over. The prices have done this steadily since they were under $2. I'm guessing the next big jump will be up to $5 or so, probably during the winter when the heating oil demand can be the excuse.

The market is incredibly bearish right now and analysts or expecting it to go into the low $90s or to around $75, which is where it was last September.

[seruzawa]

Originally Posted by BrowningBAR

The market is incredibly bearish right now and analysts or expecting it to go into the low $90s or to around $75, which is where it was last September.

I no longer make any sort of serious predictions. The fact is no one knows what the market is going to do. Only two weeks ago we were told that $200 oil was inevitable this winter. Gold prices are falli9ng as well... another "impossibility".

And we all remember the famous 2002 prediction of "Gas will be $4 per gallon this year and will never go lower."

Even better is: "We will be out of oil by 1977."

[BrowningBAR]

Originally Posted by seruzawa

I no longer make any sort of serious predictions. The fact is no one knows what the market is going to do. Only two weeks ago we were told that $200 oil was inevitable this winter. Gold prices are falli9ng as well... another "impossibility".

And we all remember the famous 2002 prediction of "Gas will be $4 per gallon this year and will never go lower."

Even better is: "We will be out of oil by 1977."

Exactly. I was just putting out there, because for every one person that says oil is never going to fall, there is another saying the bubble has burst.

Personally, I need it to fall so my heating oil bill isn't $700 a month...

[longride]

The good part is that no matter what the prices are or what the supply of oil is, we can all agree that it's Bush's fault! Thank God when that guy is out of office and everything returns to roses and blue skies again!

[sarnali2]

Gas isn't much lower than $4.00 a gallon here, from a peak of around $4.40...definately putting a pinch on my spending. I was stupid enough to let my fiance` have the use of my gas cards if she needed them, our combined bill for July was over $900.....I'm a victim of my own generosity it appears.

[Kenneth_Moore]

Originally Posted by longride

The good part is that no matter what the prices are or what the supply of oil is, we can all agree that it's Bush's fault! Thank God when that guy is out of office and everything returns to roses and blue skies again!

At last, we agree! But, there could be another coup de etat, and the Supreme Court steals yet another election and coronates King Kain. Ever vigilant, my friend, ever vigilant!

[BrowningBAR]

Originally Posted by Kenneth_Moore

But, there could be another coup de etat, and the Supreme Court steals yet another election and coronates King Kain.

Well, maybe this time all of you Floridians can learn how to read and use a voting card and get it right the first time...