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Old 09-06-2008, 05:21 AM   #31
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I just wanted to tell you Duke that the scoops on the original bike were NOT PLASTIC! I bet you never took so much crap over something so meaningless.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:05 AM   #32
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I just wanted to tell you Duke that the scoops on the original bike were NOT PLASTIC! I bet you never took so much crap over something so meaningless.
Thanks, LR! I'd like to bag on these guys, but the fact remains I made a factual error, and I must admit full responsibility. My bad.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:08 PM   #33
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Almost forgot KDuke - MUCH better video-presence this go-round.

Of course, with a bike that can alternately make you grin idiotically from ear-to-ear, then frighten you enough to cone-shape the saddle, I'm surprised you didn't just gibber like a Madman into the lens.

I probably would have.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:58 AM   #34
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Almost forgot KDuke - MUCH better video-presence this go-round.

Of course, with a bike that can alternately make you grin idiotically from ear-to-ear, then frighten you enough to cone-shape the saddle, I'm surprised you didn't just gibber like a Madman into the lens.

I probably would have.

Thanks, 'Hawk! Your clever words indicate you might have the necessary writing talent to take over my job once my TV career takes off!
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:04 PM   #35
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Thanks, 'Hawk! Your clever words indicate you might have the necessary writing talent to take over my job once my TV career takes off!
Not likely. I'm an Idiot that can't ride for shyte. Yeah, I've "saved it" once or twice when something happened that, if I hadn't done whatever maneuver I did, it wouldn't have been pretty......... but if I could ride - that would not have happened in the FIRST place.........

Thanks for the consideration, though.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:14 AM   #36
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"An all-new V-Four (see sidebar below) was created, achieving Star's goal of reaching the 200-horsepower mark."

So this month's Cycle World mag arrives with a cover story on the VMax, and it says 174 horsepower. What's up with that Mr. Duke, think it's rear wheel versus crank rating, or just a bit of exaggeration on YamaStar's part?
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:33 AM   #37
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"An all-new V-Four (see sidebar below) was created, achieving Star's goal of reaching the 200-horsepower mark."

So this month's Cycle World mag arrives with a cover story on the VMax, and it says 174 horsepowere. What's up with that Mr. Duke, think it's rear wheel versus crank rating, or just a bit of exaggeration on YamaStar's part?
No exaggeration, KM, just the usual crank vs rear-wheel numbers. It's typical for a shaft-drive bike to lose up to 15% from the crankshaft to the rear wheel. Given the Max's claimed 197 hp at the crank, a 15% reduction would put rear-wheel #s at 167 hp, so the CW #s from the Max are actually quite good - only an 11.7% loss. So either the Max's shaft-drive system is highly efficient or the 197 crank hp is understated. Or CW got a nicely tuned version.
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No exaggeration, KM, just the usual crank vs rear-wheel numbers. It's typical for a shaft-drive bike to lose up to 15% from the crankshaft to the rear wheel. Given the Max's claimed 197 hp at the crank, a 15% reduction would put rear-wheel #s at 167 hp, so the CW #s from the Max are actually quite good - only an 11.7% loss. So either the Max's shaft-drive system is highly efficient or the 197 crank hp is understated. Or CW got a nicely tuned version.
Oh cripes. ONLY 174 RWHP. How will anyone stand the shame?
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:15 AM   #39
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I'm sorry guys but I have to go cry in my room.... Only 174hp... WHY YAMASTAR WHY!?
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:28 PM   #40
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Given the Max's claimed 197 hp at the crank, a 15% reduction would put rear-wheel #s at 167 hp, so the CW #s from the Max are actually quite good - only an 11.7% loss.
Apparently Dale Walker couldn't get a Hole Shot (pun intended) that could put the 174hp to full use anyway, so I suppose it's a moot point. What's equally interesting is that Jay Gleason got a 10:33 quarter mile on the 1985 version, and Dale pulled a 10:26 on the '09! That's a lot of time, money, and engineering for a net gain of .17 seconds.

I still want one anyway.
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