2008 Supersport Shootout: CBR600RR vs Daytona 675 vs ZX-6R vs R6 vs GSX-R600

[pdad13]

Originally Posted by Buzglyd

Could you post that just one more time?

I'm really outraged.







(Seriously, what the f*ck is up with the forums?)

[Pete_Brissette]

"Where's the beef? Did you test the ZX6R with the ECU derestricted or did you leave it stock (and choked)? Personally, I hope you did it derestricted.

The writing of the article is terrific. Nice job. But where are the dyno graphs, lap times, 1/4 mile times, top gear roll-ons, etc.? Cheers, Jack"


We did test the Ninja in both modes. Unfortunately, it is still a tad underpowered on top compared to the other four bikes.

There are three dyno chart images in the gallery at the top of page 1. We're working to get the first image (ZX in jumper and non-jumper mode) repaired as well as inserting the other two dyno graphs in the story text.

Regarding lap times, 1/4 times, etc, they tend to be too cost prohibitive to acquire. Let me 'splain. It's not commonly known, though not a secret, that most OEMs do not want their supersorts or literbikes tested for times at a public trackday. This is a reasonable request as you simply couldn't get a clean lap with a bunch of other bikes in the way. So, consider the cost of renting an entire race track and strip, and you can see how ridiculously expensive this can get. I know we look like a million dollars, but we can't justify the outlay at this time.

We do test them at a track for track environment impressions. But we also feel that an equal amount, if not more, weight should be granted to street riding impressions. Sure, these things are very much "race bikes with lights," but just because tens of thousands of them are sold annually in the U.S. doesn't mean that tens of thousands of them will be raced or even taken to a track. Hope that gives you some insight into our methodology.

--Pete

[Pete_Brissette]

Originally Posted by 12er

Where is the Duc? *waaaaa, snivle, sniff sniff* There for all you who was about to throw a fit I did it for ya.

Personally great review, though I would need two as roller blades as Yoga still barely lets me contort to sqeeze on those tiny beasts.

In a perfect world we would've tested the 848 as well. Alas, a number of things (not people or companies) conspired against this happening. I will speculate that it may have scored very high overall, but would have been penalized severely for Price.

--Pete

[Pete_Brissette]

Originally Posted by Flickmeister

Which bike pulled harder out of the corners, the Honda or Triumph? Thanks, Jack

Hmm... Your questions just keep getting more difficult. There's no scientific way to say, but Englishman Steve felt that the Honda "rips out of corners." He has owned before and currently owns a 675. Helpful?

[Flickmeister]

Pete,

Thanks for answering my questions. I understand why you do what you have to do. I do appreciate valuable impressions of how a machine performs more than the cold, hard lap times, but I'm anal enough to appreciate the numbers too. Thanks Pete. I appreciate your time and efforts to answer my questions. Cheers, Jack

[Kenneth_Moore]

Originally Posted by pdad13

(Seriously, what the f*ck is up with the forums?)

pdad13, I remind you of the immortal words of John F. Kennedy:

"Ask not: what the f*ck is up with the forums. Ask rather: what is f*cked up with the forums."

[Kreb_Cycle]

you spelled suspension wrong in the header section where you list the rankings of the bikes; the 2nd s and p are transposed: supsension

feel free to delete my post after fixing it

[Pete_Brissette]

Originally Posted by Kreb_Cycle

you spelled suspension wrong in the header section where you list the rankings of the bikes; the 2nd s and p are transposed: supsension

feel free to delete my post after fixing it

Becoming horribly incensed after seeing this dutiful note on a typo, I raced to my submitted text knowing full-well after having re-read the text 1.2 trillion times that I simply couldn't have done such a thing. I have two things to say. I was right, and our web builders shall receive a thorough flogging with a bunch of that hard and dry decorative corn that subscribers to Better Homes and Gardens hang from there door in early fall.

Sure it's easy for me to say that it wasn't me, but it weren't. Thanks, Kreb.

[trenttheuncatchable]

Originally Posted by Pete_Brissette

I was right, and our web builders shall receive a thorough flogging with a bunch of that hard and dry decorative corn that subscribers to Better Homes and Gardens hang from there door in early fall.

Apparently I have to have at least ten characters of my own in this message, or it won't post.

[Pete_Brissette]

Originally Posted by trenttheuncatchable

Apparently I have to have at least ten characters of my own in this message, or it won't post.

Did you happen to note what time I posted that note? I only had one eye open. 'Least I didn't fix my post then delete yers.