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Old 05-26-2008, 02:05 PM   #21
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I wouldn't buy Joe Rocket either.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:10 PM   #22
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Textiles do NOT offer as much protection as leather. Not close. However, they are vastly improved over the older Belstaff style waxed cotton garments. If you get a well-made textile garment such as Aerostich or Olympia -- and that's just a couple of reputable makers -- you can be reasonably confident in your protection. But if you want the best, a heavy leather is the best. Period.
Do you ever get the feeling Sachi has everything in her house alphabetized or arranged in absolute order?

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that her favorite show is Monk...

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Old 05-26-2008, 02:38 PM   #23
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Do you ever get the feeling Sachi has everything in her house alphabetized or arranged in absolute order?

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that her favorite show is Monk...


what could be more useless than arguing with a deaf female lawyer????

I went down wearing a JR Ballistic 4.0 and walked away more or less intact, the jacket to a beating on the shoulder, forearm and chest from sliding but it didn't wear completely through
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:40 PM   #24
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Ok then, here's a really broad question. If I were strictly looking for build quality and safety, which manufacturer should I lean towards for a good heavy leather? I realize that's not an easy question, but none the less......lets see what people think.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:54 PM   #25
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Geeze. I should take a pic of the mess in this living room and that should stop your nonsense.

Six, look at Vanson to see some first-class leathers. To compare my getoff with Sarnali's, I slid at 45 mph wearing a Vanson jacket and the damage was so minimal that I just put some shoe polish on the scrape and kept wearing it. So much for Joe Rocket.

There are plenty of other good brands -- Look in RoadRacing World for some good makers. BMW's leathers also are superb, although ridiculously expensive. I use Frank Thomas, which isn't in the class of either Vanson or BMW, but are perforated so work well in the heat down here!

It's not just the leather quality, the stitching is important as well. Every seam that could hit the ground should be double-stitched and lapped. It's heavier, harder to make, and much safer.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:56 PM   #26
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what could be more useless than arguing with a deaf female lawyer????

I went down wearing a JR Ballistic 4.0 and walked away more or less intact, the jacket to a beating on the shoulder, forearm and chest from sliding but it didn't wear completely through
Was that when your Triumph Trophy bit it?
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Geeze. I should take a pic of the mess in this living room and that should stop your nonsense.

Six, look at Vanson to see some first-class leathers. To compare my getoff with Sarnali's, I slid at 45 mph wearing a Vanson jacket and the damage was so minimal that I just put some shoe polish on the scrape and kept wearing it. So much for Joe Rocket.

There are plenty of other good brands -- Look in RoadRacing World for some good makers. BMW's leathers also are superb, although ridiculously expensive. I use Frank Thomas, which isn't in the class of either Vanson or BMW, but are perforated so work well in the heat down here!

It's not just the leather quality, the stitching is important as well. Every seam that could hit the ground should be double-stitched and lapped. It's heavier, harder to make, and much safer.

I really like what I've seen of Vanson, but the jacket I want is over $600. A wee bit out of my comfortable price range. lol
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I hear you. My entire Frank Thomas suit was about $625, so getting a Vanson armored suit would have doubled my cost!

Still, you can use the Vanson as a guide to high quality. Check Syed -- they are known for making good-quality racing leathers; perhaps they have two-piece suits as well.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:24 PM   #29
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They DO focus on Bling, I'll give you that - but a) I've never paid retail for a piece of Icon gear; and b) I've never had more than minor issues with any Icon gear I've purchased (or heard of more than minor issues, for that matter).

Joe Rocket gear is considered really good (for the price), but I've heard dozens of complaints for JR, and I consider Icon to be a notch-above them.
I have had similar complaints with Joe Rocket gear. I purchased some JR cool weather gloves that were supposed to be "waterproof". As it turns out, they were NOT waterproof. The textile Fieldsheer pants and Tourmaster jacket did a great job at keeping the rain out.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:32 AM   #30
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Aerostich for textiles. The main reason they use leather in racing is due to the friction factor. Leather does not slide nearly as far as textiles. Luckily my stich hasnt seen the ground but several of my buddies stich's have. Most did not even have a scratch on the suit. Vanson is the bomb for leather but you got $$$$ and leather is not good in heat or rain.
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