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seruzawa · 04-23-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sachiwilson

Remember, BMW pricing is more competitive over in Europe than it is here. For better or worse.

I keep hearing that and for all I know it's true but it is also immaterial. Urals are cheaper in Russia. So what? I don't live there and couldn't care less. It won't help US BMW dealers to tell 20-somethings, "I know it's $14K here but it's only $12k in Europe!" They'll bye the Gixxers anyhow.

sachiwilson · 04-23-2008, 03:07 PM

Of course, but it explains why BMW continues with the designs and pricing that it has.

seruzawa · 04-23-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sachiwilson

Of course, but it explains why BMW continues with the designs and pricing that it has.

Sorry, but it doesn't. Why does BMW charge more for bikes sold in the US? I've yet to hear an explanation. Because they can? Revenge for WWII? Maybe it's reverse dumping. We are subsidizing the euro riders. Why not? We seem to subsidize about every other country in the world.

vermicious · 04-23-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Sorry, but it doesn't. Why does BMW charge more for bikes sold in the US? I've yet to hear an explanation. Because they can? Revenge for WWII? Maybe it's reverse dumping. We are subsidizing the euro riders. Why not? We seem to subsidize about every other country in the world.

Maybe I'm being stupid here but.. um... tariffs?

seruzawa · 04-24-2008, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vermicious

Maybe I'm being stupid here but.. um... tariffs?

Good guess, but Japanese bikes face the same tariffs.

sarnali2 · 04-24-2008, 07:15 AM

Triumph pretty well blows them out of the water with their pricing structure. Labor and general costs in England are every bit as expensive as in Germany, plus BMW is part of a major corporation and has been in business since the 20's. Triumph is more or less a labor of love for a real estate developer yet their bikes are consistantly more reliable, more competitive in their individual market niche's and less expensive......

BMW has been resting on the reputation the airhead and early K models built for the last decade or so, time for them to come back down to earth.

vermicious · 04-24-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Good guess, but Japanese bikes face the same tariffs.

Must be zeh monacle subsidies fur all zose German engineers zen

jamesdemien · 04-24-2008, 01:23 PM

That thing looks awesome...cant wait

Duken4evr · 04-24-2008, 04:14 PM

Even if the performance is competitive, which it may well be, and even if the price is close to competitive, which it won't be, the Gixxerkids won't buy it because BMW is perceived as an old man's bike, and the BMW guys won't buy it because, well, they are old men.

Seems like moronic marketing to me. Perhaps BMW is after some sort of "halo" marketing strategy to shake the old man's bike label. Good luck with that. Trix are for kids. BMWs are for function comes first minded old guys with fat wallets. I recall BMW's last attempt at a serious sport bike. At least this one looks sharp, not like a beached whale like the old K1200S. No doubt it will meet the same fate though.

jamesdemien · 04-25-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Duken4evr

Even if the performance is competitive, which it may well be, and even if the price is close to competitive, which it won't be, the Gixxerkids won't buy it because BMW is perceived as an old man's bike, and the BMW guys won't buy it because, well, they are old men.

Not all of us BMW guys are old men. We'll I'm 33 but thats not really old is it?

Yes, I agree BMW is trying to shake the notion that they only make bikes for old dudes. I think that 10 years ago it was sort of true but the bikes in the last couple of years have been awesome.

Go ride one sometime, you'll be impressed.

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sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,643	Triumph pretty well blows them out of the water with their pricing structure. Labor and general costs in England are every bit as expensive as in Germany, plus BMW is part of a major corporation and has been in business since the 20's. Triumph is more or less a labor of love for a real estate developer yet their bikes are consistantly more reliable, more competitive in their individual market niche's and less expensive...... BMW has been resting on the reputation the airhead and early K models built for the last decade or so, time for them to come back down to earth. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "Denser alloy. My Father gave it to me, I think he wants me to kill you"... CVF-FCV

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04-24-2008, 04:14 PM	#29
Duken4evr Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 705	Even if the performance is competitive, which it may well be, and even if the price is close to competitive, which it won't be, the Gixxerkids won't buy it because BMW is perceived as an old man's bike, and the BMW guys won't buy it because, well, they are old men. Seems like moronic marketing to me. Perhaps BMW is after some sort of "halo" marketing strategy to shake the old man's bike label. Good luck with that. Trix are for kids. BMWs are for function comes first minded old guys with fat wallets. I recall BMW's last attempt at a serious sport bike. At least this one looks sharp, not like a beached whale like the old K1200S. No doubt it will meet the same fate though.