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Old 04-18-2008, 09:16 AM   #11
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Appearance-wise it does very little to separate itself from the sport bike pack but it sure does separate itself from the rest of the BMW lineup. There's nothing about it that suggests BMW -- it does look nice though.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:16 AM   #12
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Dry weight of 418 lbs and 190hp! That's the type of power to weight that fits right in with the Japanese litre bikes. The frontal area may be a rip-off of the R6 because the R6 plastic was used on the test mule. The target number for this will probably be in the $25,000 range- putting it in direct competition with the MV f4, Ducati 1098s, Benelli and a few others. Is it possible the total production is supposed to be in the 2000 bikes a year range? Maybe- but the intro of the bike and press release made it seem as if they were trying to produce more motorcycles than that.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:36 AM   #13
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Default ...head scratch, and again.

All things considered:
Seems the only reason to follow through on this for BMW, is ...expanding their lineup, further enhancing thier new rep/image,(as compared to co. as we used to know them).
As already noted, no great innovation, wont beat competition for pure performance.
Hmmm.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:44 PM   #14
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Maybe this is an April Fools Joke...though I admit that it is a few weeks after April 1. I just can't imagine that they are that stupid. Obviously they wouldn't be competitive against the Big Four.

BMW has dropped prices on several models recently. And they have admitted that their very cheapest bike is now made is China. If this IS real, then you guys may be slightly pessimistic on price. It might be in the high teens not the high twenties.
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:01 PM   #15
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It appears their focus is on WSBK hence the 1000 bike manufacturing run. An odd direction for them to take, I don't think there's a very big market for an over $20k sportbike, maybe just enought to support a homologation run.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:44 AM   #16
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>The challenge for BMW, and all European manufacturers, is the
>continued decline in value of the American dollar against the euro.
>Von Kuenheim notes that the dollar and Japanese yen have lost about
>80% of their value versus the euro.

Lost 80% of their value? That would mean they have only 20% left. Von Kuenheim has probably smeared that boot grease on his monocle again.

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Old 04-23-2008, 01:55 PM   #17
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The target number for this will probably be in the $25,000 range- putting it in direct competition with the MV f4, Ducati 1098s, Benelli and a few others. Is it possible the total production is supposed to be in the 2000 bikes a year range? Maybe- but the intro of the bike and press release made it seem as if they were trying to produce more motorcycles than that.
BMW claims to intend on selling the S1000 at a price fairly competitive with the Asian bikes. Considering the value of the Euro, that number might be pushing the $15K mark. They'll definitely be trying to sell more than 1000 or 2000 of them. The deal is they have to have at least 1000 produced by Dec 2009 in order to meet homologation criteria. They'll build way more than that.
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I'll believe in competitive BMW-USA pricing when I see it. 'Cause it'll be the first time. 650 singles... $9K+, 800 twins... $10K+, 1200 Boxers.... $13.5K+.

Everyone who believes you'll see 190hp, 420 pound, I-4 Beemers for $10.5K raise your hand. Excellent. Come to my Brooklyn Bridge Toll Management Seminar.. onry $500 registration fee. You come, bring famiry. Klazy Ken guest speaker, you bet.
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Remember, BMW pricing is more competitive over in Europe than it is here. For better or worse.
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