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Old 03-18-2008, 10:51 AM   #11
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Gas price may make people talk about buying bikes, but I doubt it will result in more sales. As the article states, bikes are thought of as diversions here, not practical tools - and that's not going to change anytime soon. There are too many compromises people have to make to use one as daily transportation, and society here is not big on compromise - hair gets messed up, no a/c or heater (unless you're on a 'wing, LT, etc...), rain protection, storage, passenger accommodations (especially kids), and of course, safety. As riders already, we don't mind any of these - or at least overlook them. Someone who isn't interested in anything except transportation likely won't.

Maybe, when wagons become more popular than SUV's, bikes will start to become more than a diversion to most people. I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 03-18-2008, 11:28 AM   #12
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Okay, one last time. BMW prices in the US are similar to their prices worldwide. Other manufacturers' prices in the US are lower than they are worldwide, making BMWs seem relatively expensive to the US buyer.
BMW prices don't SEEM relatively more expensive in the US they ARE more expensive. The US buyers... especially the younger buyers that BMW is trying to court.... don't give a flying donut hole how much BMW charges for bikes in Finland. Trust me on this. They go into the showroom floor and see a heavier slower bike than a 'Busa that costs $3K more otd and costs a LOT more in dealer maintenance costs... then you see them a few days later on a 'Busa.
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Old 03-18-2008, 12:14 PM   #13
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Some people put the cost of bringing democracy to Iraq at back-to-back parked Honda Runes from east coast to shining sea 40 times.

FT.com / In depth - Iraq war costs inspire shock and awe

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Old 03-18-2008, 01:40 PM   #14
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"...back-to-back parked Honda Runes from east coast to shining sea 40 times."

That'd be a really good use for them!
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:42 PM   #15
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If only Harley would make a sportbike.......sigh.....
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:49 PM   #16
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If only Harley would make a sportbike.......sigh.....
Maybe not, but I found your new Harley Adventure tourer.

Now riding THAT to Alaska would be a real adventure. Not some poofy ride on a GS or a Tiger, nosiree.
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:06 AM   #17
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Where did you find that damned thing?? Probably a pic of your current ride, but you won't tell us!
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:01 AM   #18
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What a great article, Jeremiah. I talked to several of my friends who were working at Rossmeyer's Destination Daytona HD shop. They all confirmed what we already knew: sales sucked. One guy, Anthony, has taken off from his regular job to work HD sales during Bike Week for years. Usually he expects to make $10-15K for two weeks; this year he said he'd made just $2k by then end of the second week. Randy, the Sales Manager at Arlen Ness, was hoping it was just the weather...but I suspect it's not that simple.

I'm not sure I agree with your cultural comments on why motorcycling is dimming. Your points may have some vailidity, but I think it's just that a fad is coming to an end. We could have dug up a lot of reasons why Hula-Hoops fell out of favor, but really, it was just a matter of once they'd had a chance to try them, most people found out they weren't really that fun and interesting after all. On to yo-yos.

Couldn't agree more on the Adventure Touring thoughts. No matter where I was, the BMWs and other AT bikes came through in packs. Every one of them had thousand$ in farkels. I agree, it's clearly the "next big thing" within the motorcycle genre. And, like 99.9% of all the 4WD SUVs sold, they'll never leave the pavement. But, you're right, compared to choppers AT bikes are a great direction for the industry to go in.

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Old 03-20-2008, 10:50 AM   #19
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Sorry you didn't get more fish on your hook JB. You hooked the only certified moron we have here above. We'll work on getting more for next time though!
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Sorry you didn't get more fish on your hook JB. You hooked the only certified moron we have here above. We'll work on getting more for next time though!
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