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Old 10-29-2007, 02:36 AM   #1
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:58 AM   #2
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Having a cheap spec series is the way to spark interest. If they can make it affordable and everyone has the same spec bike, then people will go fo it.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:40 AM   #3
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One of the coolest things about these bikes is the use of a stock frame. That means lots of legroom for those of us that knees that don't quite work as well as they used to.

Want a street legal version? Start with a KTM or Husqvarna.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:07 AM   #4
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"In the engine compartment would reside the 450cc dirtbike motor that can be tuned to produce nearly 60 hp with about $1000 worth of work."

And costs about $3,000.00 to fix when it blows up like a hand grenade.

Affordable? Only if you're rich to begin with...

Now a CR500 powered road racer, that'd be cool. Just ask Sean Alexander...
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:57 AM   #5
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"In the engine compartment would reside the 450cc dirtbike motor that can be tuned to produce nearly 60 hp with about $1000 worth of work."

And costs about $3,000.00 to fix when it blows up like a hand grenade.

Affordable? Only if you're rich to begin with...

Now a CR500 powered road racer, that'd be cool. Just ask Sean Alexander...
Rotax/Ktm/Husky are easily within this range and don't think for a minute that Honda/Yam/Kaw/Suz can't do that. Your replacement motor parts for such a bike would not be your biggest investment. Suspension is the costly part.

This is a way to get kids and club racers into "spec" racing for people with budgets. It's a good idea. I would support such efforts.
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:06 PM   #6
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What's the point? 125cc and 250cc road racers are going to be cheaper..
I think motoGP has shown that. There are already plenty of bikes in the 40-60 hpr range anyway, aprilia RS250s, EX500, ninja 250s?

Trying to make a spec class based on half a dozen customized dirt bikes seems a bit silly.

Why not just go out and by 125 gp bikes?
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:11 PM   #7
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One of the coolest things about these bikes is the use of a stock frame. That means lots of legroom for those of us that knees that don't quite work as well as they used to.
Uh? I think your sadly confused... the frame has nothing to do with legroom. See... you sit on the seat and put your feet on those peg things. It's the distance between the two that determines how much you have to bend your legs

If you notice the pegs and seat are about the same on those as a 2-stroke GP bike.

Just suck it up and do some stretches My 70 year old father has ridden some of my practice sessions on my 125GP bike and he races a RS250 himself
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:09 PM   #8
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Why not just go out and by 125 gp bikes?
Uh, 'cuz these aren't 125GP bikes? I dunno - you tell me.

Mo' racin' is Mo' Betta'.

At least in my book.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:46 AM   #9
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Uh, 'cuz these aren't 125GP bikes? I dunno - you tell me.
Mo' racin' is Mo' Betta'.
At least in my book.
Just worries me they bill them as entry level bikes. I just hate to see racing become even more expensive than it already is and if you compare running a 450 MX bike with running a 250 2-stroke MX bike the costs are much higher for the 4-stroke.. I image road racing will only be worse.

I don't see why these custom bikes that aren't even readily available should be billed as the next spec racing entry level class. We have so many racing classes as it is, do we need one more? What do these offer than a 2-stroke GP bike doesn't ? I guess they're a bit cheaper new if they're only $10k, that's the only thing I can think of slightly cheaper new...

Maybe it's just me anyone else think of a reason?
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:54 AM   #10
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Maybe it's just me anyone else think of a reason?
Cause there are plenty of people that already have a MX bike in the garage?
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