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Old 10-11-2007, 07:28 PM   #21
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Just curious, am I the only one that thinks it should be called TAZZ? As in the tazmanian devil from bugs bunny, look at the front view in the article with the lights on.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:12 PM   #22
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OK well if Chuck Barris designed motorcycles, it would look like the Vision.
LOL I agree. So ugly
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:27 PM   #23
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I agree I like the Vegas. Nice and clean. But that Vision thing looks like something out of comic book. Think I would still buy a Harley though because why not have the real deal? Trouble is, I can't decide between the V-Rod, Dyna FXD, or Fat-Boy. The FXD is only 12 grand and the Vegas is $15799.00 on the web site. For that money I would get a V-Rod I think
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:52 AM   #24
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Style style style - how about substance? Victory needs to stand out to get a slice of the HD crowd. It needs a 30% bigger engine. Had they not been so vision impaired at the time they would enjoy a cult status now. But no: more of the same. Safe road pussies deserve to lose.

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Old 10-12-2007, 05:12 AM   #25
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Kawasaki doesn't seem to be breaking any sales records with the 2000cc cruiser.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:01 AM   #26
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And why do you need a bigger engine? The Suzuki M109 has the same size engine as the vision, but puts out more HP than the Kawasaki 2000.

With anything over 2000cc you are now looking at a bike that weighs a minimum of 850lbs. Don't you think it's a bit much having a 1000lb motorcycle just to have a 2500cc v-twin? At that point you should just get a Boss Hoss and be done with it.

I'd rather a manufacturer get more out of a "smaller" engine and try to keep the weight down.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:40 AM   #27
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And why do you need a bigger engine? The Suzuki M109 has the same size engine as the vision, but puts out more HP than the Kawasaki 2000.

With anything over 2000cc you are now looking at a bike that weighs a minimum of 850lbs. Don't you think it's a bit much having a 1000lb motorcycle just to have a 2500cc v-twin? At that point you should just get a Boss Hoss and be done with it.

I'd rather a manufacturer get more out of a "smaller" engine and try to keep the weight down.
The last thing Johnny Drops It needs is a heavier motorcycle.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:28 AM   #28
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I'd rather a manufacturer get more out of a "smaller" engine and try to keep the weight down.
Amen. Throwing displacement at a bike is not the right way to improve performance.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:30 AM   #29
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Amen. Throwing displacement at a bike is not the right way to improve performance.
So there IS a replacement for displacement! I KNEW IT!!
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:54 AM   #30
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So there IS a replacement for displacement! I KNEW IT!!
In the DSM-World we refer to that as "Boost".
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