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Old 08-29-2007, 09:22 AM   #1
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:40 AM   #2
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"Subsequently, a lighter wheel can be used, with lighter steering as the benefit. I can only hope other makes will grasp this concept, soon."

Not quite. The ZTL system makes for HEAVIER steering...

It reduces the unsprung weight of the wheel (lighter spokes, which makes the suspension happier), but it increases the rotational inertia (larger diameter brake disk). Thus at higher speeds, the wheel resists changing direction more, effectively acting as a speed sensitive damper.

Until Honda came out with the electronic damper, it was the best solution for speed-sensitive damping (the electronic damper allows a non-linear rate, unlike the ZTL which is a linear-rate speed-sensitive damper)

Its why the previous buells were able to get away with such little rake without a damper: the wheel is a damper with its greater rotational inertia.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:01 AM   #3
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Default GSX-R750 VS. Buell 1125r at Streets of Willow!

Thanks Guys!!

Great article and as usual with a unique point of view!!

Can hardly wait now to read the bike to bike comparos that are sure to come.

I can see it now GSX-R750 VS. Buell 1125r at Streets of Willow!
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:02 AM   #4
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I can't help it. I've been trying to avoid writing negative things in these forums but every time I see this bike I'm appalled at how freaking ugly it is. The XB's on the other hand are truly one of the nicest looking bikes around. How they managed to take what was basically an XB and screw it up so bad in the "style/design" department,...it's beyond me. Well actually it's not beyond me.

1. Fairing is way too wide.
2. Side scoops look like something designed in an 8th grade shop class by someone who was inspired by their mom's Tupperware bowl set.
3. Underslung exhaust appears to have been designed by the same 8th grade shop class with inspiration from......I have no idea.

Sorry. I'll shut up now.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:13 AM   #5
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Who's the Buell expert out there? There was a reference: "instead of the other Buells’ Italian Verlicchi chassis" that surprised me. I certainly don't know Buells as well as HDs, but I had no idea they sourced a frame! I always thought their innovative frames was their forte. I guess you learn something new every day, if you stay relatively sober. Details? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller??
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:16 AM   #6
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Default This could be the sport bike niche I am looking for.

This could be the sport bike niche I am looking for.

Who else offers optional heated grips in this class? Who else offers tip over protection from the factory?

Who else offers a sport bike with belt drive? Who else offers fuel in frame?

Answer, nobody I know of.

Sounds like a great sport bike street bike made for people who actually put some miles on the thing.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:45 AM   #7
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I'll have to see one in person before I weigh in on the styling. Buell has a reputation for form follows function sometimes.

The Japanese never take chances like this.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:47 AM   #8
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Who's the Buell expert out there? There was a reference: "instead of the other Buells’ Italian Verlicchi chassis" that surprised me. I certainly don't know Buells as well as HDs, but I had no idea they sourced a frame! I always thought their innovative frames was their forte.
Guessing here, but it could be that Verlicchi is the maker, not the designer? Or that Buell had the idea and then contracted with Verlicchi to put it into metal.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:48 AM   #9
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I believe I'll hold out for the CityX version.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:50 AM   #10
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Who's the Buell expert out there? There was a reference: "instead of the other Buells’ Italian Verlicchi chassis" that surprised me. I certainly don't know Buells as well as HDs, but I had no idea they sourced a frame! I always thought their innovative frames was their forte. I guess you learn something new every day, if you stay relatively sober. Details? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller??
Buell is usually the designer of all things Buell, but the frame was "made" by Verlicchi. Now an American firm is punching them out.
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