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Old 06-05-2013, 05:22 PM   #21
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I think the support is there for the Vrod engine, just not in the frame geometry they saddled it with. I personally think a more robust Vrod line including baggers and more traditionally styled bikes would work. At some point they'll probably have to do it just like Triumph will with the Bonnevilles and BMW did with the new GS motor.
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I don't believe the V-Rod's Revolution motor will ever replace the big-inch Harleys. Instead, look for a similar solution that BMW took: precision cooling by liquid with continued finning on the cylinders for air cooling augmentation within a year or so. Also, a new Harley engine might be the place we'll find the first direct-injected motorcycle powerplant...
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:23 PM   #22
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Yamaha is rumored to be working on a 3 cylinder crossplane engine. I sincerely hope so!
We bought into the crossplane description of this new engine we'll soon be seeing, but I've since learned that all Triples are of this type of design. Thought MO readers might like to know...
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:27 PM   #23
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I doubt BMW was pushed into anything..
Actually, they were pushed. They were up against power and emissions limits with the old engine. More power equals more heat, which means greater cooling is required.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:27 PM   #24
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I don't believe the V-Rod's Revolution motor will ever replace the big-inch Harleys. Instead, look for a similar solution that BMW took: precision cooling by liquid with continued finning on the cylinders for air cooling augmentation within a year or so. Also, a new Harley engine might be the place we'll find the first direct-injected motorcycle powerplant...
I think that's accurate.

In today's world, the Vrod motor is too small and lacking in torque for the big inch cruiser competition.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:31 PM   #25
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We bought into the crossplane description of this new engine we'll soon be seeing, but I've since learned that all Triples are of this type of design. Thought MO readers might like to know...
My dream is for a modern, liquid-cooled 2 stroke.

How about a new version of the old RZ350?

A 2 pop triple RZ500? I'd have one in the garage in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:35 PM   #26
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My dream is for a modern, liquid-cooled 2 stroke.

How about a new version of the old RZ350?

A 2 pop triple RZ500? I'd have one in the garage in a heartbeat.
As the former owner of an RZ500, from your lips to god's ears!
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:43 PM   #27
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As the former owner of an RZ500, from your lips to god's ears!
Yamaha makes fuel injected 2 stroke outboard motors.

They know how to do it!
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:46 PM   #28
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As the former owner of an RZ500, from your lips to god's ears!
I still cant shake the image of the guy last year dumping an RZ in turn four at Laguna Seca during the parade lap. I was far from alone in being much more concerned for the bike than the rider. A mob was forming to throw the guy in the lake.
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Yamaha makes fuel injected 2 stroke outboard motors.

They know how to do it!
But they don't know how to do it at 10,000 rpm. Or 15,000...
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But they don't know how to do it at 10,000 rpm. Or 15,000...
They don't need to.
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