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2014 Honda CTX700/N Review
 

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2014 Honda CTX700/N Review

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jmdonald 05-09-2013 07:22 PM

Warming up?
 
I am warming to the idea of a dct transmission. If I had to do a lot of city/start stop riding it would be an advantage. It would have to be on bike #2. I may be going insane but I like these bikes.

Buzglyd 05-10-2013 07:36 AM

The DCT's are pretty proven now in the automotive world.

It just strikes me though, are we such a society of Nancy Boys now that using a freaking clutch is intimidating?

When I was a young lad, if you bought a car with an auto trans all your friends made fun of you and called you a chick (or worse).

How do you rev the engine at a stoplight and look bada$$?

I don't find these particularly attractive either. Time will tell I suppose and the sales floor is where success or failure are determined.

If a whole bunch of moto-journos think it's great, it's usually doomed.

sarnali2 05-10-2013 07:38 AM

I don't know if I like the DCT drive train but I like the look of these bikes. They look nice and modern without being Transformers, are probably user friendly for 90% of the target market and appear to ride and handle well. I think Honda scored a hit with these, I hope they sell a ton of them.

bbtowns 05-10-2013 08:05 AM

This changes everything? That seems like the overstatement of the year. First of all, do we really believe that it's the clutch that keeps non-riders from becoming motorcyclists, or that eliminating the very small amount of talent it takes to operate the clutch will somehow make the skills required to be a motorcyclising dramatically easier. I get that someone who commutes in traffic all day might find that appealing, if they were already a motorcyclist. Otherwise this just seems like the Honda marketing department go MO to do their work for them.

The Spaceman 05-10-2013 08:07 AM

Does an automatic transmission really represent a paradigm shift in motorcycling? DTC is really the only "new" technology in these bikes. Yes, they combine a lot of neat features and are priced and configured well for the new-rider market. But will that be enough to start another market growth phase similar to the '70's boom years as Honda hopes?

Kevin_Duke 05-10-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzglyd (Post 281513)
The DCT's are pretty proven now in the automotive world.

It just strikes me though, are we such a society of Nancy Boys now that using a freaking clutch is intimidating?

If a whole bunch of moto-journos think it's great, it's usually doomed.

Yes, the current gen of kids are Nancy Boys. Most don't even want to get their drivers license when they're 16. And manual transmissions in new cars are rarely bought. In SoCal you're more likely to see a Ferrari than a three-pedal 2013 car. Sad but true. The CTX can't change that on its own, but it might address a concern of some. We need more young riders!

Kevin_Duke 05-10-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman (Post 281517)
Does an automatic transmission really represent a paradigm shift in motorcycling? But will that be enough to start another market growth phase similar to the '70's boom years as Honda hopes?

No, it won't. Sadly, there will never be another growth phase like the 1970s.

Buzglyd 05-10-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke (Post 281518)
Yes, the current gen of kids are Nancy Boys. Most don't even want to get their drivers license when they're 16. And manual transmissions in new cars are rarely bought. In SoCal you're more likely to see a Ferrari than a three-pedal 2013 car. Sad but true. The CTX can't change that on its own, but it might address a concern of some. We need more young riders!

My son is 15 1/2 and ready to get his permit (he won't until his grades improve).

I've already explained to him that his first car will be a stick as we used to call it.

Thankfully, the boy across the street got a new GTI and it is a six speed manual.

I am on a quest to Man Up the neighborhood!

Kevin_Duke 05-10-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzglyd (Post 281520)
My son is 15 1/2 and ready to get his permit (he won't until his grades improve).

I've already explained to him that his first car will be a stick as we used to call it.

Thankfully, the boy across the street got a new GTI and it is a six speed manual.

I am on a quest to Man Up the neighborhood!

My kid will also learn to drive a stick, assuming we'll still be able to find one in 10 years!


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