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Kevin_Duke · 10-04-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman

When you do that test, I'd be very interested in your impression of the Brammo's transmission versus the Zero's direct drive. I think I'd like having a tranny just because I'm a guy and I like changing gears. But if it adds weight, cost, and saps range without a significant benefit, maybe it's not worth it.

Looking forward to that comparo!

Yeah, using a tranny on an e-bike seems like a good idea, but yet no e-vehicles I know of have one. Should be interesting to evaluate.

Kevin_Duke · 10-04-2012, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

When you do that test, I'd be very interested in your impression of the Brammo's transmission versus the Zero's direct drive. I think I'd like having a tranny just because I'm a guy and I like changing gears. But if it adds weight, cost, and saps range without a significant benefit, maybe it's not worth it.

Looking forward to that comparo!

Yeah, using a tranny on an e-bike seems like a good idea, but yet no e-vehicles I know of have one. Should be interesting to evaluate.

The_AirHawk · 10-04-2012, 11:02 PM

Nice, Zero.

I hereby retract any negative words I may have ever said (or left unsaid!) about the Company.

I noted the dirty-bikes are substantially lighter than the Littlest Ninja.....
(apples to lemonade, yes I know)

Captain Steve · 10-06-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman

Holy crap. Am I reading this right?

99% increase in power output.
Over 130 mile range.
95% charging in an hour.
Hot-swap battery capability.

The rate of technology advancement from Zero is stunning.

It would be interesting if they had charged batteries at the fuel station. Pull in, swap, good for another 130 miles. Attendant plugs in the used battery to the high speed charger and it'll be ready in an hour for the next guy.

The Spaceman · 10-08-2012, 09:23 AM

I wonder if Brammo and Zero (and Leaf etc.) are seeing a spike in sales in Cali the past week or so.

Closed gas stations and $5 a gallon might be the incentive some on-the-fence buyers needed.

Buzz?

Buzglyd · 10-08-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman

I wonder if Brammo and Zero (and Leaf etc.) are seeing a spike in sales in Cali the past week or so.

Closed gas stations and $5 a gallon might be the incentive some on-the-fence buyers needed.

Buzz?

Nobody has any money in CA. The economy is in the toilet.

I-5 is empty midday.

I drove to Burbank and back to seal the Ducati deal and went 75 MPH the whole way both ways.

The Spaceman · 10-08-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzglyd

Nobody has any money in CA. The economy is in the toilet.

I-5 is empty midday.

I drove to Burbank and back to seal the Ducati deal and went 75 MPH the whole way both ways.

Not on that old Twinkie you didn't! (Wheeze rattle gasp clank!)

Seriously, seeing what's happening with gas and shortages, do you think it will have any effect on people's perceptions of e-bikes and cars, or will they just figure it's a one-time thing and continue on as before?

12er · 10-08-2012, 10:46 AM

Scooters were flying out of the shops back in 08 when gas went high the last time. So we'll see...

Kevin_Duke · 10-08-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman

Not on that old Twinkie you didn't! (Wheeze rattle gasp clank!)

Seriously, seeing what's happening with gas and shortages, do you think it will have any effect on people's perceptions of e-bikes and cars, or will they just figure it's a one-time thing and continue on as before?

I posed that question to Harlan Flagg, proprietor of Hollywood Electrics. He said: "Although I have only a few years as reference, this has historically been a busy time of year for us, so it's hard to say if there is a direct correlation. Sales have spiked in the last few weeks and I think will continue to be strong through the next couple of months."

Personally, I don't think the gas price spike is enough on its own to convert buyers. I think most of them would've already been thinking about an e-bike purchase.

Buzglyd · 10-08-2012, 03:18 PM

If fans won't buy them, there's no chance skeptics will.

The new Kawasaki 300 gets fantastic mileage and has none of the downside.

Motorcycles are impractical as it is without adding another layer of impracticality.

10-04-2012, 11:02 PM	#13
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The Spaceman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,391	I wonder if Brammo and Zero (and Leaf etc.) are seeing a spike in sales in Cali the past week or so. Closed gas stations and $5 a gallon might be the incentive some on-the-fence buyers needed. Buzz? __________________ "Israel remains fully committed to peace and to the solution of two states for two peoples." Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, 3/21/13

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10-08-2012, 10:46 AM	#18
12er Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SF Posts: 2,791	Scooters were flying out of the shops back in 08 when gas went high the last time. So we'll see...

10-08-2012, 03:18 PM	#20
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,854	If fans won't buy them, there's no chance skeptics will. The new Kawasaki 300 gets fantastic mileage and has none of the downside. Motorcycles are impractical as it is without adding another layer of impracticality.