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Old 04-16-2012, 11:26 AM   #1
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:11 PM   #2
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How ironic that you would use a photo of Reuben Xaus as an example of someone who doesn't need traction control... XAUS the very rider that set the standard for crashing-his-brains-out, repeatedly, on the world stage.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:59 PM   #3
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How ironic that you would use a photo of Reuben Xaus as an example of someone who doesn't need traction control... XAUS the very rider that set the standard for crashing-his-brains-out, repeatedly, on the world stage.
Well, despite his reputation, we presume Xaus has more talent than those of us without world championships on their C.V.s!
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:18 PM   #4
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Dirty! How's Moto-Land been treatin' ya'?

While we're on the subject of Xaus - that photo I had on my desktop @ work for near a year - up 'til I replaced it with a photo of me doing a 4-wheel drift in the Bullitt @ a ProSolo at the Airbase in Blytheville (and then later one of me in the Hyundai as it "emerged" from a huge cloud of dust after a handbrake pin-turn @ the RallyX Nationals in Tulsa).

(yeah, I like to slide - but I don't have the Skilzorz of Xaus on a moto - or even probably Sean or the Dukester: I have to use "training wheels" for all my sideways shenanigans)

I even had one for awhile of Sean on a then-new ZX-14 draggin' hard parts on the high-bank oval @ Daytona (IIRC).
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:02 AM   #5
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I think it was Phil Hill who said that once Formula 1 cars got better brakes it was a lot harder to pass once someone got in the lead. He felt it took away from the excitement of the race. I see this technology adding to the Moto races not to mention the average Joe's survival out on the street. Very interesting to see all the data points and fixes within the different systems. These technologies add to the moto experience and I welcome them. Nice write up.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:27 AM   #6
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A very enlightening article. I'd picked up some info on T/C from various sources; this is the first comprehensive look at T/C I've read. However, it raises almost as many questions as it answers:

Is launch control available?

What types of processors are used, how fast are they, and how greatly do they differentiate the systems capabilities?

Is there a common data bus for all the sensors that integrates with the ECU's data bus?

Do they to redesign existing systems like EFI and ABS to work with T/C, or do they just patch it in?

Can the systems be re-flashed in the field, i.e. upgraded, or is what you got what you get? Can they be "hacked?"

What is the liability exposure with these systems if they fail or have a bug?

What will Mr. Duke do for photo opportunties if wheelie control becomes ubiquitous?
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:06 AM   #7
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Pffft traction control! what you need is throttle control and good ol' Road Holdin' Weight. Save all that Racer X crap for the track, you'll live longer.
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Great writeup. The guys who do have the requisite skills test TC limits at World Superbike races - and even they crash sometimes. Since most of these bikes are ridden on the street a lot of the time, I wonder whether TC will prevent typical traffic accidents. Does it encourage street riders to avoid chopping the throttle when leaned over, or does it just give them false confidence to go faster and crash harder? TC might actually increase the need for training. Nothing is idiot proof.
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Since most of these bikes are ridden on the street a lot of the time, I wonder whether TC will prevent typical traffic accidents.
I hate to say, that I doubt it. The "typical" moto traffic-crash involves an oncoming-automobile, alcohol, or some combination of those. Neither of which can be helped much with TC.
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Good to see you still hangin' 'round, Dirty!

I see little 'bang-for-the-buck' in this technology for the street rider.

However, I will admit it would come in handy around here when one tries to accelerate around a corner that turns out to be sandy.
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