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seruzawa 03-30-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sarnali2 (Post 274252)
Is that the same engine they used in the CL series 160/250/305 etc? that was an excellent motor.

Same plant in the 250/305s. Just different bores as I recall..

lwatcdr 04-03-2012 09:59 AM

Rebel 250
 
I would never buy one new it is just too expensive for what you get.
The Suzuki TU250x is more of a standard and has FI and costs $100 less than the Rebel. The CBR 250 and Ninja 250 are also are more modern bikes with better brakes and handling even the Yamaha Vstar 250 is better looking and seems to have better performance. I just don't see why anyone would buy a Rebel unless.
The only bike the would want is a small Honda Cruiser.
Maybe Honda will step up to the plate and offer a new Rebel with the CBR 250r thumper and brakes for the same price. Even better maybe a new CB 250 using the thumper as well.

sarnali2 04-04-2012 07:54 AM

If they had any brains they'd bring back the SL350 and the CB200 twin. Those were both excellent small bikes.



Classic / Vintage Honda page

The Spaceman 04-04-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Huss (Post 274278)
While this bike is 'nice' it is waaay over priced.
How can this be $4200? As pointed out, Honda's all new CBR is cheaper and offers so much more.
The tooling for the Rebel was paid off, what, in 1990?
This bike should be about $2999.

Another mfg guilty of the same thing is Yamaha with the TW200.
That bike is $4500! And it's been made for 25 years now, basically unchanged.
I actually want one of those but all the used ones I've seen are hurtin', and no way am I going to be a $ucker and drop that coin on a new one.

And those aren't the real prices. I got quotes from a couple local dealers on a new CBR250R ABS. MSRP: $4,500. Out the door price: $5,800 - $5950!! They add in "shipping" (rebated by Honda) "dealer setup" (fill and install the battery), "title fee" (15 minutes of paperwork) etc. etc.

The Spaceman 04-04-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sarnali2 (Post 274345)
If they had any brains they'd bring back the SL350 and the CB200 twin. Those were both excellent small bikes.



Classic / Vintage Honda page

Cool website, thanks for the link!

I'd like to see them bring back the CB350F; that was their 4-cylinder bike from the 70's. I found one in pristine condition for sale locally, but the guy wanted $5k for it.

seruzawa 04-04-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Spaceman (Post 274347)
And those aren't the real prices. I got quotes from a couple local dealers on a new CBR250R ABS. MSRP: $4,500. Out the door price: $5,800 - $5950!! They add in "shipping" (rebated by Honda) "dealer setup" (fill and install the battery), "title fee" (15 minutes of paperwork) etc. etc.

Heh heh. $5950 will get you a really nice used Wee-Strom. These 300 lb 250s are jokes. Bad jokes.

AlexKovnat 04-05-2012 05:42 AM

I saw both of Honda's quarter-liter bikes at the motorcycle show held in Novi, Michigan in early January. I think the reason why the Rebel is sold as a "beginner's bike" is this: Its front suspension is not as close to vertical as that of the CBR250. The latter has a more technologically sophisticated engine and also, since its front suspension is closer to the vertical, its more "flickable" when going into a turn. Unfortunately its also easier for a beginning rider to lose control and hurt him (or her)self.

What Honda should do is, continue to offer two quarter-liter bikes: One for beginning riders that has the front suspension leaned over more, and the other for experienced riders who might like a bike that flicks into turns faster. But what I would like to see them do is, use the more sophisticated CBR250 engine for both.


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