The State of Zero in 2012 and Beyond - Video

[Kevin_Duke]

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

The December email said:

"We are working hard to ensure 2012 lives up to your expectations."

So there's been no "Your bike is scheduled to roll off the production line in March or April or..."?

[The Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

So there's been no "Your bike is scheduled to roll off the production line in March or April or..."?

No, I don't recall seeing anything that specific.

[Kevin_Duke]

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

No, I don't recall seeing anything that specific.

So you have a deposit on a bike that they are how late in delivering?

[schizuki]

Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

So you have a deposit on a bike that they are how late in delivering?

I'm guessing [rubs temples] three to five years.

[The Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

So you have a deposit on a bike that they are how late in delivering?

Man, I don't even remember now how long it's been. I signed up for the pre-delivery right after the announcement of the Empulse, which I'm sure was documented right here on MO. I'm committed to handing over $1K when the bike is 4 weeks from delivery. I still have the right to refuse delivery if the bike isn't what they promised. Not that I'm worried; Brammo so has completely voided any contract with their failure to deliver, that no court would ever find in their favor in a contract dispute.

It's a damn shame Brammo played it this way. They may have completely alienated the group of motorcyclists most likely to buy their product. Who can be confident in a company so flippant about annoucing a product, taking orders, and then just blowing it off?

[The Spaceman]

I finally got to watch the video (they filter them at work). Zero says no to transmissions, eh? That's kinda sucks; even if it makes technical sense. Clutch and gearshift are so ingrained in the motoring experience for me that it seems like it would be hard to let it go.

[Kevin_Duke]

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

Man, I don't even remember now how long it's been. I signed up for the pre-delivery right after the announcement of the Empulse, which I'm sure was documented right here on MO. I'm committed to handing over $1K when the bike is 4 weeks from delivery. I still have the right to refuse delivery if the bike isn't what they promised. Not that I'm worried; Brammo so has completely voided any contract with their failure to deliver, that no court would ever find in their favor in a contract dispute.

It's a damn shame Brammo played it this way. They may have completely alienated the group of motorcyclists most likely to buy their product. Who can be confident in a company so flippant about annoucing a product, taking orders, and then just blowing it off?

Ah, so you hadn't yet put any money down, right? Yeah, Brammo blew a lot of goodwill with the Empulse. Brammo told us in December the bike will be ready by summer. Cross your fingers...

[The Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

Ah, so you hadn't yet put any money down, right? Yeah, Brammo blew a lot of goodwill with the Empulse. Brammo told us in December the bike will be ready by summer. Cross your fingers...

Nope, just the pre-delivery contract. Brammo should have demos at Bike Week; even if they're pre-production. There is no way I'll buy one without a demo. I've bought regular bikes w/o ever riding one (DL1000 for instance), but I knew exactly what to expect. With no knowledge base to draw on with E-Bikes, a demo is a must.

[Kevin_Duke]

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

With no knowledge base to draw on with E-Bikes, a demo is a must.

Or a MO review! Crossing fingers, not holding breath.

[The Spaceman]

Wow, what a difference betwen Zero and Brammo. On Friday I visited the Zero website and filled in a "I'm interested in the S" form.

This morning I had an email from a Central Florida Zero dealer, inviting me to come up and ride their demo S-9. They have the full Zero lineup, are expecting several 6 and 9 S bikes in the next few weeks.