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2012 125cc Scooter Shootout [Video]
 

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2012 125cc Scooter Shootout [Video]

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Buzglyd 02-02-2012 11:20 AM

If you were going to stick one of these on the back of an RV and then putter around campgrounds, you'd have to exclude the Honda.

The mileage is somewhat disappointing. An 883 Sportster gets close to these.

schizuki 02-02-2012 03:41 PM

I love the Zuma, and I wish I could justify buying one. But for long rides I've got a motorcycle and for short city jaunts I've got a bicycle. It just doesn't slot in anywhere.

Kevin_Duke 02-02-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzglyd (Post 272972)

The mileage is somewhat disappointing. An 883 Sportster gets close to these.

Yeah, we were a little disappointed in the mileage we logged. Sure, we were at WOT much of the time and riding in SoCal's fast-moving urban traffic, but we were hoping for more.

Huss 02-02-2012 04:27 PM

Nice test.
The Yam Zuma has been plagued by fuel pump failures so I hope this has since been resolved. This is why I'm wary after seeing so many on the used market with under 1K miles. It seems many owners with this problem have been given the run-around by either their dealers and/or Yam itself.
Gas mileage does seem weak for this group, but maybe the engines are tight? My Vespa 250 gets over 70mpg in the city, my PX 2 stroke about the same, same for a Buddy Blackjack 150 I had. Heck, even my old Piaggio MP3 500 - all 550lbs of it, got better mpg than the Typhoon!

sliphorn 02-02-2012 06:16 PM

Thanks for the review guys. Nice wheelie pic!

Kevin_Duke 02-02-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Huss (Post 272980)
Nice test.
The Yam Zuma has been plagued by fuel pump failures so I hope this has since been resolved. This is why I'm wary after seeing so many on the used market with under 1K miles. It seems many owners with this problem have been given the run-around by either their dealers and/or Yam itself.
Gas mileage does seem weak for this group, but maybe the engines are tight? My Vespa 250 gets over 70mpg in the city, my PX 2 stroke about the same, same for a Buddy Blackjack 150 I had. Heck, even my old Piaggio MP3 500 - all 550lbs of it, got better mpg than the Typhoon!

I wasn't aware of fuel pump issues on the Zuma. I'll poke around. As for the mileage, the majority of riding was on SoCal urban streets on which 50-mph traffic is common. Thus we had the throttles pinned most of the time. I bet most users would average at least 10 mpg better, maybe more.

Duken4evr 02-03-2012 07:55 AM

I would probably go with the Piaggio. Reason being is it has a carb and it is cheapest simplest, and cheap and simple is good for this form of transportation. A bit of carb tinkering is always fun too - shim the needle, maybe even go nuts and put a tiny bit more taper on it for those cold starts, maybe find a bigger pilot jet. The main jet is probably safely rich if anything, being an air cooled scooter that runs wide open all the time, so that can be left alone. Maybe an exhaust. OK - no exhaust mods. Lets not get carried away here.

It would actually be fun to tweak that little beast as there is satisfaction in making things work better. Oh to be in college again. Figure out what the thing needs, find a co-ed, tweak her Piaggio to work better, enjoy the "rewards" of helping a damsel in distress. You see, there was an old flame with a Suzuki Samurai I helped out a long time ago. Some girls really dig guys who can fix their machines...

All this ruminating about fixing/modding low performance vehicles takes me back to "modding" my Batavus moped as a kid for more speed too. Milled the head with a block of wood and fine grit sandpaper, raised the exhaust port a bit and it did rev higher and go faster, for awhile. Then it blew up! Ah. the ministrations of a 14 year old "tuner". Lessons learned I suppose.

The Honda looks like a mini CBR from head on. Seems pretty slick, but for my tastes it is too much for this knockabout get me from here to there as cheap as humanly possible mission.

Love the storage measured in six packs. Very apropos for the college audience ;)

Kevin_Duke 02-03-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sliphorn (Post 272983)
Thanks for the review guys. Nice wheelie pic!

It's my pleasure! :)

The Spaceman 02-03-2012 08:39 AM

Off-pavement capability is mentioned a few times in the article. Are there any mainstream scooters that are particulary good at that? They might have wider tires, heavier suspension, etc.?

I found this on the web, is it a different model of the Zuma?
http://hinsontechnologies.com/images...hazuma1251.jpg


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