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Old 07-13-2011, 02:23 PM   #11
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Maybe it's because I've never driven with a sidecar, but the physics described in the article don't make sense to me.

A hard right turn, at worst, should bury the nose of the sidecar into the pavement. While the same "enthusiasm" during a left turn should lift the sidecar's wheel from contact.
I thought the same thing as you Angus. I figured this review was from England but I've never driven a damn side car either.
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Old 07-13-2011, 02:58 PM   #12
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OMG! The "free radical" comment in the video satisfied my inner nerd.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:23 AM   #13
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Want one.

Gimmee-gimmee!

(that oogly sumbiotch would look The Shiznit parked next to my Iveco!)
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:51 PM   #14
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I don't see a link to a video on either Firefox or Chrome. Where's the link?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:47 PM   #15
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I don't see a link to a video on either Firefox or Chrome. Where's the link?
It's the first non-ad image on the page, which i see in Firefox. Click it to view the vid.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:09 AM   #16
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I want one!

Only one question ... Are they a UK setup? The reason I ask is according to the article:

"Finding the sweet spot between speed, weight balance and centrifugal force when navigating a right turn and elevating the sidecar skyward is akin to learning to wheelie."

With the sidecar on your right this should only happen during a LEFT turn.

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"When performing left turns the sidecar wheel becomes an outrigger, digging into the pavement or dirt so tenaciously you can push the front end without concern of losing control."

This seems to be a RIGHT turn scenerio.

Or maybe I forgot my left from my right. I've long since lost the "L" and "R" that used to be taped to my shoes. LOL

I had the same thoughts at first, then I realized that the bike is basically trying to high-side on every turn. You can't lean into a turn with the sidecar.

You don't think about it that way because you're so used to a normal motorcycle being leaned into a turn to balance the turning force.

Right turn:
Normal bike: You're leaning way over to the right to keep from high-siding.
Sidecar: The weight of the sidecar balances against the turning forces. If you're going fast enough you lift the side car.

Left turn:
Normal bike: You're leaning way over to the left to keep from high-siding.
Sidecar: The turning forces are all pushing down on the sidecar.
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:56 PM   #17
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It's the first non-ad image on the page, which i see in Firefox. Click it to view the vid.
Sorry, but no. That just takes me to the first photo in the set.
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:12 PM   #18
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Does "improved quality" mean that it's now comparable to a 1940s BMW rather than a 1920's?
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Old 07-17-2011, 05:14 PM   #19
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Sorry, but no. That just takes me to the first photo in the set.
What do you see after the paragraph ending in "Newton’s Third Law." and before the paragraph starting "Applying the front brake"?

Is there a larger-than-expected space between the two paragraphs?
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:16 AM   #20
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I had the same thoughts at first, then I realized that the bike is basically trying to high-side on every turn. You can't lean into a turn with the sidecar.

You don't think about it that way because you're so used to a normal motorcycle being leaned into a turn to balance the turning force.

Right turn:
Normal bike: You're leaning way over to the right to keep from high-siding.
Sidecar: The weight of the sidecar balances against the turning forces. If you're going fast enough you lift the side car.

Left turn:
Normal bike: You're leaning way over to the left to keep from high-siding.
Sidecar: The turning forces are all pushing down on the sidecar.
Appreciate the explanation but still can't wrap my brain around it ... Maybe a test ride would help get me sorted.
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