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Old 05-16-2011, 05:44 PM   #1
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I'm hosting a ride on Oahu, HI and have been searching for hours trying to find what law, rule, or regulation might shed light on this. Does anybody know where I can find an answer for including a Safety Vehicle on our ride.

We already have a truck that will be escorting my 12 or so riders. Last time we did this, however, we ran into issue with traffic not allowing my truck in as we merged. Is there anything saying I can put an 'Official Motorcycle Safety Vehicle' sign or something to that affect up in the back of the truck to make that easier?

Maybe this is worth getting ahold of HPD but I think we may have answers here.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:04 PM   #2
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BBB,

You might have answers here, but I doubt they'd be to your particular question.

I'd go with the call to HPD. Make sure you get the name and badge number. If they hesitate to give you that, they are probably not the responsible officer. But, find them and get the info.

That way, if some other LEO jumps in your Cheerios on the ride, you can tell him (or her) who at HQ said to do it that way.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:44 PM   #3
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I would think the sign would help regardless of whether it gives you any legal authority, it would at least plant the seed to other motorists not to divide your group. Enjoy the trip.
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:03 PM   #4
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thanks Ride and rod. Excellent responses. I am getting ahold of HPD today but I also agree that a sign with or without legality will be utilized for road smarts.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:38 PM   #5
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we ran into issue with traffic not allowing my truck in as we merged.
Taking your statement at face value (which might be slightly misleading)
I think you need to review your "group ride" skills and attitudes.

Group ride or not, EACH vehicle is just a single vehicle. Any attempt to make 12 riders into something like a funeral procession, where they are one big mass that cannot be seperated is a BIG mistake.....and that includes the "catch" truck. ALL group participants should be reminded of that.

There is no reason that the truck needs to be right on the ass of the last biker; doing that is, in fact, a bad idea too. He should merge as the traffic allows and not get excited if he falls a little behind.......or catches a red light and is momentarily seperated from the group. His presence is a contingency, not a necessity.
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:24 PM   #6
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Easy Rider,

Yes. I did mean to imply common sense, I apologize. I by no means, believe each must be tied to the other, including the truck; that's a bit absurd. This is why discussing the intended route is so essential. If for any reason, a bike or the truck get split by traffic, each should have the plan enough to recover. I also agree that riding in large groups is unadvisable. We split once we have more than 8 to a max of 6 riders per cluster.

The point still remains that having some legalities backing a chase truck could be utilized, regardless of skills and attitudes.

Any other pointers, I'm always an open ear and really appreciate the feedback.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:30 PM   #7
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The point still remains that having some legalities backing a chase truck could be utilized, regardless of skills and attitudes.
AFAIK, there isn't any such thing as a legally defined chase truck anywhere in the US.......unless maybe it is a parade with a permit.....and also maybe a Police escort.

Even vehicles that are legally allowed to display a flashing yellow light STILL don't get any special priveleges.......except the light.
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I'm a member of Southern Cruisers, if you visit their homepage there are group riding tips & signals which I feel are very effective. No dobut the safest group I've ridden with and I know I can go on a ride with any chapters road captains & know what to expect.
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