Originally Posted by mlynch001

"high revving . . ." LOL! My almost stock Small block Chevy revs faster than this AND makes more POWER AND TORQUE per cubic inch! Sorry guys, "high revving" and Victory or Harley Davidson are NOT to be used in the same sentence. WHAT is the point of SOHC and 4 valve heads on something that turns this slow? Harley has it right with their V-twin, 2 valves and push rods. The SOHC 4 valve Victory serves to make the engine taller than it needs to be and adds unnecessary complexity! Looking at the RPM and power numbers, there is NO other conclusion to be made. WHERE is the payoff or the necessity for the SOHC 4 Valve design? Any Engine designer needs to ask this question when they start, not just add a feature because it speaks of "performance".

Big deal, the Victory makes more power than the Harley! ANY 600 Supersport on the planet makes 40-50% more power on 1000cc less displacement. Cruiser manufacturers would all be better off NOT getting into bragging about POWER! 72 horsepower out of a 1600 + CC engine is PATHETIC! Spending $1000 and getting ZERO is less than Pathetic! This is the definition of "Waste of Money"!

Regardless of that, I would bet that the lack of power increase is more likely due to cam timing issues. Most "California" market motorcycles use special profile Exhaust cams as a part of the CARB compliance package. No matter what you do to the intake and exhaust systems, the cams are very likely to have this engine strangled.

Finally, why does an engine with 8.7:1 static compression ratio required Premium Fuel? This indicates poor combustion efficiency or other combustion chamber cooling problems. There are MANY Air cooled engines that run up to 10.0:1 compression (or more) on regular fuel. LOWERING compression ratio so you can run more advance to increase low end torque is a red flag to a tuner for poor combustion efficiency! Jacking a bunch of ignition lead into ANY engine says that the design has problems. Requiring Premium fuel for such a mildly tuned engine should say to someone that SOMETHING is inherently wrong. That is if the lack of improvement in power numbers did not say it to them already.

Originally Posted by seruzawa

Expect other States to follow suit when they see how much moola can be made by simply stopping loud bikes and just looking for the DOT sticker on the muffler. No more noise testing required.

Originally Posted by Sir_Angus

I think you're wrong about this ... Florida certainly owns a large percentage of that US market, but doesn't even have emmission regulations for cars yet. Granted some cities/counties have adopted noise ordinances, however the follow through has been about as effective as Monika Lewinski's drycleaner. (Like the throwback analogy?) Hell, in the tri-county area of SoFL, cops barely enforce standard traffic laws; I don't see them wasting their time checking for DOT stickers on exhaust anytime soon.

Big brother may require manufacturers to meet EPA laws but unlike the overbearing & over-reaching Cali laws I don't see most states micro-managing vehicle mods that way.

Originally Posted by Sir_Angus

Granted some cities/counties have adopted noise ordinances, however the follow through has been about as effective as Monika Lewinski's drycleaner. (Like the throwback analogy?) Hell, in the tri-county area of SoFL, cops barely enforce standard traffic laws; I don't see them wasting their time checking for DOT stickers on exhaust anytime soon.

Originally Posted by Buzglyd

Lar, for all your yappin' you need a much better wheelie photo. My 80cc Cuddymobile can pull that weeka$$ wheelie.

Originally Posted by seruzawa

No offense to Larry and I have no problem with people who love cruisers but after all is said and done when you trick out a Victory with 100+ hp you still have a bike that has straight line performance about equal to a 1981 KZ750 without the handling capability.

Originally Posted by Larry

I think you'd be surprised...