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Old 12-21-2010, 11:46 AM   #21
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hi, i'm looking forward to the shoot up with kawasaki ninja 250R.

would you guys please do a drag race compare the acceleration of CBR250 vs 250R?

from my understanding from reading the articles, honda would win in the initial run due to more torque? while kawasaki will win in the top speed. And also what about midrange acceleration?
I'd estimate the CBR would win a race to 30 mph, but the Ninja would take over after that. The Kawi is pretty weak down low, but the Honda will be relatively wheezy up top. Should be an interesting shootout!
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:48 PM   #22
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The CBR250 is all cool and stuff - but this begs the question as to WHY Honda didn't just update the current VTR250 chassis and running-gear already sold (or at least recently sold) in Australia, Japan, and a few other select markets?

They updated the Dullsville's lump; an engine-design that's about a Decade older than the VTR mill - so it's not like they're opposed to making something old "new again".
My GUESSES would be: emissions, noise, engine characteristics.

The first two have been driving motorcycle development for the past decade or more. The third is the old HP vs Toruque debate.
I've seen (and HEARD!) a Honda RC-166 run. Amazing engine, but not good for 10,000 miles or more, which is expected in a modern motorcycle. Might the VTR not be ideal for a new bike? I'm sure Honda looked at it.
Heck, it might have been a size/shape reason.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:15 PM   #23
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Amazing engine, but not good for 10,000 miles or more, which is expected in a modern motorcycle.
Did you mean 10K or 100K? I'd be pretty annoyed if Ionly got 10,000 miles out of a new bike. Unless I bought a Ducati.
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:30 PM   #24
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Did you mean 10K or 100K? I'd be pretty annoyed if Ionly got 10,000 miles out of a new bike. Unless I bought a Ducati.
I couldn't agree with you more on this one, especially since I have roughly 20,000 miles on mine already.
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Did you mean 10K or 100K? I'd be pretty annoyed if Ionly got 10,000 miles out of a new bike. Unless I bought a Ducati.
RC166 was a "works" race bike - I sincerly doubt you could even get a thousand miles out of one without a rebuild (or three), let-alone 10,000. I took his point as that something high-strung isn't going to last even 10,000 miles, let-alone the many-times that expected of a typical moto-engine (although the majority of Japanese bikes will, unfortunately, never reach enough miles to "wear out" and instead merely die from neglect and disuse).
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:47 PM   #26
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Japanese sport bikes are like Tootsie Pops. How many licks (miles) will they last? Crunch. The world may never know! That statement in fairly poor taste said, a Ninja 750 I once owned for 10 years had 75K miles on it and was running like new when I sold it. I have no doubt my current FZ1 will easily do 100K miles. The challenge is finding all that time to ride it!

This new mini CBR looks well put together and understressed, and it is a Honda. The thing will run forever. I would not be shocked if it could run 100K miles. The difficulty there is finding someone to ride it that long. Bikes tend to get rougher treatment as they are handed down from owner to owner.

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Old 12-23-2010, 07:41 PM   #27
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...(although the majority of Japanese bikes will, unfortunately, never reach enough miles to "wear out" and instead merely die from neglect and disuse).
Ain't that the truth!
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It is rather amazing that motorcycles have been around for so long yet it's hard to come to a consensus as to how long the engine will last due to them either collecting dust in a shed or being scrapped in a wreck.

That's comforting in a way cause an owner can worry less about rebuilding/replacing an engine and more on riding it and keeping it in one piece.
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That's comforting in a way cause an owner can worry less about rebuilding/replacing an engine and more on riding it and keeping it in one piece.
You're right. There's many guys on Stromtrooper.com with over 50K miles on their bikes with nothing more than basic maintenace. I met a guy at a rally with 65K on his (Iron Butt rider) and there's a few people with over 100k.

OTOH, my vintage Yamaha has the original factory tires!
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I know guys with 50k miles on Ninja 250s.
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