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Old 12-19-2010, 10:28 AM   #11
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As things stand now, a clean used SV650 is a good bet for that duty. Those bike simply rock. The Ninja 250 twin now has a worthy single cylinder competitor. Perhaps the SV twin needs one too

Aren't the ninja 650/er-6n and fz6r pretty much it's direct competition?? Or would you consider the Sv a more capable/sporty option than the to other 2?
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:50 PM   #12
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Aren't the ninja 650/er-6n and fz6r pretty much it's direct competition?? Or would you consider the Sv a more capable/sporty option than the to other 2?
I sure would, and the amatuer racing community seems to think so as well. On any given track day you'll see more SVs than the Ninja or the FZ by an order of magnitude. And the aftermarket for the SV is huge; it's amazing what you can do with an SV and a pile o' cash.

IIRC, there was an article or series of articles here where somebody started with a stock SV and added trick parts to it to get their start in racing.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:29 PM   #13
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My point is it would be cool to have a sporty single cylinder option to the FZ/SV/Ninja in the mold of this bike, but with a better chassis.

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Old 12-20-2010, 05:51 PM   #14
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Neat bike but hardly a step forward when you consider that 20 years ago Honda was making the 45hp CBR250RR with gear driven cams and a 19,000 rpm redline....
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Old 12-20-2010, 06:12 PM   #15
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Neat bike but hardly a step forward when you consider that 20 years ago Honda was making the 45hp CBR250RR with gear driven cams and a 19,000 rpm redline....
It does not pretend to be a "step forward."

It is no secret Honda can do far more. In the 60s, in fact, Honda was racing flyweight multi-cylinder, high-rpm bikes with amazing engines, if not old school chassis.

2011 Honda CBR250R Tech Review

In context you are right, but this newest CBR250R is an entry level bike for new riders.

For the '98 CBR250RR you mention at roughly $10k USD cost back then, you could pay for two and a half 2011 CBR250Rs.

It's a new market, my friend. No one here is ready to pay $10-12K plus for the descendant of that super Honda 250 from the last millennium.

I wish they were, but that will take time, if it ever happens.
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Old 12-20-2010, 08:22 PM   #16
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It does not pretend to be a "step forward."

It is no secret Honda can do far more. In the 60s, in fact, Honda was racing flyweight multi-cylinder, high-rpm bikes with amazing engines, if not old school chassis.

2011 Honda CBR250R Tech Review

In context you are right, but this newest CBR250R is an entry level bike for new riders.

For the '98 CBR250RR you mention at roughly $10k USD cost back then, you could pay for two and a half 2011 CBR250Rs.

It's a new market, my friend. No one here is ready to pay $10-12K plus for the descendant of that super Honda 250 from the last millennium.

I wish they were, but that will take time, if it ever happens.
The CBR250 is all cool and stuff - but this begs the question as to WHY Honda didn't just update the current VTR250 chassis and running-gear already sold (or at least recently sold) in Australia, Japan, and a few other select markets?

They updated the Dullsville's lump; an engine-design that's about a Decade older than the VTR mill - so it's not like they're opposed to making something old "new again".
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:16 AM   #17
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The CBR250 is all cool and stuff - but this begs the question as to WHY Honda didn't just update the current VTR250 chassis and running-gear already sold (or at least recently sold) in Australia, Japan, and a few other select markets?

They updated the Dullsville's lump; an engine-design that's about a Decade older than the VTR mill - so it's not like they're opposed to making something old "new again".


Good question. Don't really have a solid answer for you, but I'm checking.
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:01 AM   #18
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The CBR250 is all cool and stuff - but this begs the question as to WHY Honda didn't just update the current VTR250 chassis and running-gear already sold (or at least recently sold) in Australia, Japan, and a few other select markets?

They updated the Dullsville's lump; an engine-design that's about a Decade older than the VTR mill - so it's not like they're opposed to making something old "new again".


This is all I got – "The all new CBR250R is a global motorcycle, specifically designed as a sport bike for new customers and enthusiasts alike."


I would presume there were deeper reasons, but this CBR is what they wanted to do. It fits the bill for its new mission.
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The CBR250 is all cool and stuff - but this begs the question as to WHY Honda didn't just update the current VTR250 chassis and running-gear already sold (or at least recently sold) in Australia, Japan, and a few other select markets?

They updated the Dullsville's lump; an engine-design that's about a Decade older than the VTR mill - so it's not like they're opposed to making something old "new again".
Personally, I think I'd prefer the V-Twin VTR250...
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:28 AM   #20
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hi, i'm looking forward to the shoot up with kawasaki ninja 250R.

would you guys please do a drag race compare the acceleration of CBR250 vs 250R?

from my understanding from reading the articles, honda would win in the initial run due to more torque? while kawasaki will win in the top speed.

and also what about midrange acceleration?
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