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2011 Ducati Diavel Review (Almost)
 

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2011 Ducati Diavel Review (Almost)

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Dr_Sprocket 11-19-2010 02:38 PM

Alright. IMHO, the bike looks the business. However, it's the ergos that worry me. The photo of the guy in the suit on the bike looks out of proportion... wonky, almost. Anybody else get that?

Kevin_Duke 11-19-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Sprocket (Post 252294)
Alright. IMHO, the bike looks the business. However, it's the ergos that worry me. The photo of the guy in the suit on the bike looks out of proportion... wonky, almost. Anybody else get that?

Wonky may be in the eye of the beholder. It feels pretty much like a standard when sitting on it. Besides, anyone in a suit looks stupid on a bike!

jmdonald 11-19-2010 05:35 PM

Beautiful
 
I also thought BMW's Cruiser beautiful but they did not sell well enough and only lasted a few years.I hope Ducati has better luck.

Kevin_Duke 11-19-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jmdonald (Post 252300)
I also thought BMW's Cruiser beautiful but they did not sell well enough and only lasted a few years.I hope Ducati has better luck.

It should have much more success than the Beemer. I mean, it's not really that much of a cruiser. It's more like the original Vmax, but it weighs less and has more power. Was the Vmax a cruiser...?

YamaCat 11-19-2010 07:17 PM

What! No carbon fiber?
 
From: The Graduate

Mr. McGuire
: I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
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Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics.
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Remember the hue and cry that went up back when Ducati changed the look of the 916 to that of the 998?


...my how times have changed.


Maybe Ducati should give the folks at Moto Guzzi a call next time they try to build a cruiser.

...or me.

Overload 11-19-2010 07:54 PM

Why isn't anyone pushing the bar as much as Ducati? Last year with the Multistrada, and this year with the Diavel. The only other innovative bike I can think of in the last few years is the DN-01 from Honda. Everything else is evolutionary, not revolutionary.
Or am I forgetting something?

Buzglyd 11-19-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Sprocket (Post 252294)
Alright. IMHO, the bike looks the business. However, it's the ergos that worry me. The photo of the guy in the suit on the bike looks out of proportion... wonky, almost. Anybody else get that?

Looks like he's sitting on a Road King to me. Pretty comfy looking.

Dr_Sprocket 11-20-2010 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzglyd (Post 252309)
Looks like he's sitting on a Road King to me. Pretty comfy looking.

Okay, it is just me. The only way to find out is to go sit on it myself. I like the idea and concept. I have always liked the VMax, too. Unfortunately, I could never fit my lanky legs on the old VMax without serious discomfort on my tail bone.

Kevin_Duke 11-20-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 252305)
Why isn't anyone pushing the bar as much as Ducati? Last year with the Multistrada, and this year with the Diavel. The only other innovative bike I can think of in the last few years is the DN-01 from Honda. Everything else is evolutionary, not revolutionary.
Or am I forgetting something?

First off, let's give some props to BMW for recognizably pushing the envelope. Other Euro brands, too.

But to your point, it seems as if the Japanese have become much more conservative since their economy tanked in 1990. The whole culture has gone more conservative. Also, when I was there a year ago, I was surprised to learn that their domestic motorcycle market has imploded as the median age has gotten older. A Honda rep told me that school kids are taught that motorcycles are very dangerous, and few of them take up motorcycling. The famous Ueno district, notable for its motorcycle shops, is just a shadow of its former bustling self.

So, I believe that without a big domestic market to serve, Japanese companies has somewhat lost the pulse of the worldwide motorcycle market. Combined with a more conservative business climate, they are unwilling to take calculated risks with innovative new product. Right now, they are mostly crawling in a hole to weather the economic storm, which actually may be a smart business decision, if not for motorcycle enthusiasts.

Meanwhile, brands like Ducati, Triumph, BMW, the Piaggio Group, and even Victory are gaining market share by introducing a steady stream of new product. Their profits might not be big, but they are stealing sales from Japanese brands.

Hope this info provides some perspective.


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