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2011 Bagger Cruiser Shootout

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MTRHEAD75 · 11-12-2010, 01:48 PM

Been saying this for awhile but Harley better take notice rebadgeing the same old thing with a few new bits...is killing them. Having out dated suspensions on bikes that cost that much is just asking for fail...Harley wake up and smell the coffee There is this new tool called the internet that people use to make informed judgments with before they buy something these days.

anrajala · 11-12-2010, 01:57 PM

Lemme get this straight. After installing big bucks PowerPak the Harley is still dead last with a big margin both in power and torq?

How the f*** is it possible to produce only 65 rwhp with a power pack? Even my lazy cow 2002 Fat Boy has dynoed 64 rwhp. How in the God's name is this possible? Are these worthless nitwits going to employ some engineers at some point? Is the company's so called management still focussing into "maximising the use of the brand value" i.e. sunglasses?

Screw me with a stick. I thought my weekend was on a bad start when my -90 diesel Merc blew the head gasket but no, its getting worse.

- cruiz-euro

Kevin_Duke · 11-12-2010, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anrajala

Lemme get this straight. After installing big bucks PowerPak the Harley is still dead last with a big margin both in power and torq?

How the f*** is it possible to produce only 65 rwhp with a power pack? Even my lazy cow 2002 Fat Boy has dynoed 64 rwhp. How in the God's name is this possible? Are these worthless nitwits going to employ some engineers at some point? Is the company's so called management still focussing into "maximising the use of the brand value" i.e. sunglasses?

Screw me with a stick. I thought my weekend was on a bad start when my -90 diesel Merc blew the head gasket but no, its getting worse.

- cruiz-euro

You should feel happy! Your bike has as many horses as a Screamin' Eagle TC103!

jmdonald · 11-12-2010, 08:50 PM

Doesn't anyone else want a less than 500 lb bike with 150 HP and the torque that goes with it,brembo brakes, ABS,trellis frame,Ohlins suspension,single sided swingarm in red?I guess not.How about adding shaft drive? I still like these baggers for some twisted reason even if they aren't all of the above.

acecycleins · 11-13-2010, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmdonald

Doesn't anyone else want a less than 500 lb bike with 150 HP and the torque that goes with it,brembo brakes, ABS,trellis frame,Ohlins suspension,single sided swingarm in red?I guess not.How about adding shaft drive? I still like these baggers for some twisted reason even if they aren't all of the above.

Wait until the batwing and bags are fitted to the Diavel. That would put some woo in the hoo!

Dr_Sprocket · 11-13-2010, 02:27 PM

I bet every manufacturer in the comparo was saying the exact same thing...

"We've got this one in the 'bag', baby!"

Get it? "... in the bag"?

Duken4evr · 11-13-2010, 04:11 PM

Gimme a Vic with that Star engine and I'd be a happy man. Frankenbike indeed.

For me, it is all about the engine, so the Star is the most attractive. I am willing to put up with the other shortcomings to have that motor. The Star pulls at the heart, the Vic pulls on my rational side.

Bah. Who am I kidding. The brain rules and the Vic is most likely to find itself in my garage someday.

Harley and it's 65 hp. Now that is just plain pathetic. An SV650 makes more than that! Built DRZ400 dirt bikes make about that LOL...

mscuddy · 11-13-2010, 06:28 PM

The only bike that works worth a damn in the Yamaha. The Harley looks like it's made from pladough, and the Victory's ugly, period.

But they all don't hold a cancle to my Honda Chair...hic....

Kevin_Duke · 11-13-2010, 06:32 PM

My 0.02: This shootout turned out to be very interesting, with each bike offering its own distinctive merits and demerits. If I were to take the best from each, I’d combine the Stratoliner’s burly powertrain and swoopy styling with the Street Glide’s ergos and maneuverability. Then I’d incorporate the Cross Country’s comprehensive instruments, capacious saddlebags and versatile suspension to create my ideal bagger.

11-12-2010, 11:07 AM	#1
Administrator Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On My Bike Posts: 0	2011 Bagger Cruiser Shootout Original Article: 2011 Bagger Cruiser Shootout Please discuss the Motorcycle.com article 2011 Bagger Cruiser Shootout in our Motorcycle Forums below. Use the reply button to let others know your comments or feedback on the article. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, along with your thoughts and personal opinions on the bikes and products we have tested.

11-12-2010, 08:50 PM	#5
jmdonald Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 1,223	Desire Doesn't anyone else want a less than 500 lb bike with 150 HP and the torque that goes with it,brembo brakes, ABS,trellis frame,Ohlins suspension,single sided swingarm in red?I guess not.How about adding shaft drive? I still like these baggers for some twisted reason even if they aren't all of the above. __________________ Secede.

11-13-2010, 02:27 PM	#7
Dr_Sprocket Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delmarva Peninsula Posts: 2,331	I bet every manufacturer in the comparo was saying the exact same thing... "We've got this one in the 'bag', baby!" Get it? "... in the bag"? __________________ "Aid to the helpless indigent is civilized. Aid to the irresponsible is socially corrosive." ----- Schizuki (c. 2011) Last edited by Dr_Sprocket : 11-14-2010 at 03:08 AM.

11-13-2010, 04:11 PM	#8
Duken4evr Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 705	Gimme a Vic with that Star engine and I'd be a happy man. Frankenbike indeed. For me, it is all about the engine, so the Star is the most attractive. I am willing to put up with the other shortcomings to have that motor. The Star pulls at the heart, the Vic pulls on my rational side. Bah. Who am I kidding. The brain rules and the Vic is most likely to find itself in my garage someday. Harley and it's 65 hp. Now that is just plain pathetic. An SV650 makes more than that! Built DRZ400 dirt bikes make about that LOL... Last edited by Duken4evr : 11-13-2010 at 04:14 PM.

11-13-2010, 06:28 PM	#9
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	The only bike that works worth a damn in the Yamaha. The Harley looks like it's made from pladough, and the Victory's ugly, period. But they all don't hold a cancle to my Honda Chair...hic.... __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

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11-12-2010, 01:48 PM	#2
MTRHEAD75 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 49	Been saying this for awhile but Harley better take notice rebadgeing the same old thing with a few new bits...is killing them. Having out dated suspensions on bikes that cost that much is just asking for fail...Harley wake up and smell the coffee There is this new tool called the internet that people use to make informed judgments with before they buy something these days.

11-12-2010, 01:57 PM	#3
anrajala Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,490	Lemme get this straight. After installing big bucks PowerPak the Harley is still dead last with a big margin both in power and torq? How the f*** is it possible to produce only 65 rwhp with a power pack? Even my lazy cow 2002 Fat Boy has dynoed 64 rwhp. How in the God's name is this possible? Are these worthless nitwits going to employ some engineers at some point? Is the company's so called management still focussing into "maximising the use of the brand value" i.e. sunglasses? Screw me with a stick. I thought my weekend was on a bad start when my -90 diesel Merc blew the head gasket but no, its getting worse. - cruiz-euro

11-13-2010, 06:32 PM	#10
Kevin_Duke Motorcycle.com Staff Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,062	My 0.02: This shootout turned out to be very interesting, with each bike offering its own distinctive merits and demerits. If I were to take the best from each, I’d combine the Stratoliner’s burly powertrain and swoopy styling with the Street Glide’s ergos and maneuverability. Then I’d incorporate the Cross Country’s comprehensive instruments, capacious saddlebags and versatile suspension to create my ideal bagger.