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seruzawa · 09-09-2010, 10:27 AM

Honda could take a cue from BMW. BMW obviously lets the 2 wheeled Division go its own way. Just compare BMW's generally quality and reliable bikes to their overpriced, stiff riding and high maintenance cost 4 wheel offerings.

Seems like only BMW, Triumph, KTM and Kawasaki are trying to put some excitement in the market. And to a lesser degree Yamaha. It's notable that Yammer, Kwacker, KTM and Trumpet do not have automobile divisions at all. It's also notable that the smaller companies seem to be doing the most.

Though I have absolutely no sympathy for Harley any more it's only fair to note that of all the bike companies only HD has a substantial portion of public that actually get angry at the company and ridicule it for trying to modernize. Look at how the Harley "Faithful" reacted to Buell. Heck, a lot of them don't even like Sportsters. That's a tough attitude to overcome and no other company faces it. Except for a small handful of Boxer owners but they are an extreme minority of Beemerphiles.

I'll still bet that getting shorn from HD and its kicked-in-the-head attitude will be the best thing that could happen to Buell.

seruzawa · 09-09-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

Sarcasm, right...?

I think he owned one of their cars once.

Kenneth_Moore · 09-09-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

Still, it's tough to argue with big sales.

Right up until they stop.

sarnali2 · 09-09-2010, 01:21 PM

Well not to be rude but HD does actually improve their bikes incrementally each year. Of course the first thing most Harley yayhoo's do is "rip all that EPA crap off and run some performance pipes, a/c and down loads" thereby screwing up a perfectly good running bike.

Beside the point really since this is about BMW, who've had their share of stinkers too, ......power assisted linked ABS anyone?....smoldering rear drives?....surging and electrical issues on the R1150's? Anyway they are generally excellent bikes and if I wasn't on a Harley I'd be on BMW # 4 and happy as a clam. It is a whole different moto-culture no doubt and Germans are a strange bunch themselves so it all works. Sieht aus wie eine gutte Ziet hatte, wurde von allen..............

09-09-2010, 10:27 AM	#11
seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,392	Honda could take a cue from BMW. BMW obviously lets the 2 wheeled Division go its own way. Just compare BMW's generally quality and reliable bikes to their overpriced, stiff riding and high maintenance cost 4 wheel offerings. Seems like only BMW, Triumph, KTM and Kawasaki are trying to put some excitement in the market. And to a lesser degree Yamaha. It's notable that Yammer, Kwacker, KTM and Trumpet do not have automobile divisions at all. It's also notable that the smaller companies seem to be doing the most. Though I have absolutely no sympathy for Harley any more it's only fair to note that of all the bike companies only HD has a substantial portion of public that actually get angry at the company and ridicule it for trying to modernize. Look at how the Harley "Faithful" reacted to Buell. Heck, a lot of them don't even like Sportsters. That's a tough attitude to overcome and no other company faces it. Except for a small handful of Boxer owners but they are an extreme minority of Beemerphiles. I'll still bet that getting shorn from HD and its kicked-in-the-head attitude will be the best thing that could happen to Buell. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord! Last edited by seruzawa : 09-09-2010 at 10:34 AM.

09-09-2010, 01:21 PM	#14
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,637	Well not to be rude but HD does actually improve their bikes incrementally each year. Of course the first thing most Harley yayhoo's do is "rip all that EPA crap off and run some performance pipes, a/c and down loads" thereby screwing up a perfectly good running bike. Beside the point really since this is about BMW, who've had their share of stinkers too, ......power assisted linked ABS anyone?....smoldering rear drives?....surging and electrical issues on the R1150's? Anyway they are generally excellent bikes and if I wasn't on a Harley I'd be on BMW # 4 and happy as a clam. It is a whole different moto-culture no doubt and Germans are a strange bunch themselves so it all works. Sieht aus wie eine gutte Ziet hatte, wurde von allen.............. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "Denser alloy. My Father gave it to me, I think he wants me to kill you"... CVF-FCV

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