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Old 07-20-2010, 10:29 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the help.

Another question, To start this whole getting my permit and license stuff. Okay is there like a pink slip you have to have just like for a regular driver's license?(I already have my driver's license)

I heard about the MSF, do you take that during when you have your permit? Or doesn't matter when. Do you have to do the MSF? (I am going to do the MSF anyways, just curious)
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Old 07-21-2010, 08:20 AM   #12
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Just take the MSF - WHEN you pass it, they will issue you a Moto License in Kali (IIRC).
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:10 AM   #14
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Well I am only 17. Do I take the MSF then get my permit then later the license?
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:32 AM   #15
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Well I am only 17. Do I take the MSF then get my permit then later the license?
If you're old-enough to hold a license, you get one if you pass the MSF course (in most states), because the "Final Test" of the MSF course is essentially the same test most states give (both written and skills test).

The UP-side of taking the MSF, is you get Instruction from people that have a vested interest in seeing you survive becoming a Motorcyclist, prior to taking the test.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:45 AM   #16
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I am really sorry for all these questions

So I can take the MSF now and if I pass successfully i wouldn't have to take the permit test, I would just go straight to the license?

Is it good to take the MSF first, before I start the permit/license process?
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:25 PM   #17
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You should get the permit first. I'm not sure what the rule is in Cali, but in Illinois you have to have the permit before you can attend the MSF class.

In some states, passing the MSF course gets you your motorcycle license. In others (like Illinois) you still have to pass the riding exam. However, sometimes the riding exam is held at the MSF facility (read: parking lot) right after the last class lesson.

Looks like you will need your parents' signatures on the permit application if you are under 18: Driver License and Identification (ID) Card Information
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:30 PM   #18
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Okay, they actually have the motorcycle handbook for California online.

Motorcycle Handbook- License Requirements

Here's some of the relevant info:

Motorcycle applicants are encouraged to enroll in the Basic Rider Course offered by the California Motorcyclist Safety Program (CMSP). This course offers hands-on motorcycle skill training for novice and returning riders. CMSP has trained thousands of riders over the past several years. The DMV motorcycle skills test is waived upon completion of the Basic Rider Course and submission of the Certificate of Completion of Motorcycle Training (DL 389).
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:54 AM   #19
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I just took the BRC in Illinois a couple months ago, you don't need your permit and once you pass you take your pass card into the DMV and they update your license. the only catch is if your under 18 I believe, my brother is 17 and they made him take their written first.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:21 PM   #20
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Yeah, I think I am going to take my permit test, then the BRC.

I was just doing research on motorcycles and stuff, and a few ads say "it hasn't been broken in yet", Is that good to get one that hasn't been broken in yet? Also is it good to get a bike with the lowest miles as possible? (I'm not getting a bike anytime soon, just curious)

Can some specifically tell me what braking in your bike consists of.

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