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2010 Brammo Enertia Review

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SpeedwayRN · 07-05-2010, 09:59 AM

Hot damn! Will the take my Brutale in on trade???????

Seriously, why wouldn't I buy a Suzuki TU250 instead? Cheaper and unlimited milage and great gas milage. Gas stations are everywhere.......

These will be good 2nd or 3rd bikes for running errands but thats it. Guess I have to provide my own milk crate????

The power distribution network is just not there yet. That is the limiting factor to all these electric vehicles two and four wheels.

These probably are the future, however I'm not ready to jump in just yet. Gasoline is still cheap enough.

seruzawa · 07-05-2010, 10:17 AM

Yeah well Jackie Chan can afford someone to follow him around in a pickup truck.

Need more range and quicker charging. No one has a battery system even in theory that will provide what's needed. Wishing won't make it so.

Kevin_Duke · 07-05-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Need more range and quicker charging. No one has a battery system even in theory that will provide what's needed. Wishing won't make it so.

True, but some clever electrical engineers soon will. The next leap in battery design will alter the e-bike paradigm.

seruzawa · 07-05-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

True, but some clever electrical engineers soon will. The next leap in battery design will alter the e-bike paradigm.

Which engineers?

SpeedwayRN · 07-05-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Which engineers?

The ones perfecting the perpetual motion machine.........snicker snicker.

mscuddy · 07-05-2010, 11:49 AM

I just don't get it I guess...why not a hybrid? A small four cycle powering a generator, that either charges up the batteries, runs the electric motor directly, or bypasses both and is the power unit.

I'm building a beach-going wheelchair based on the above powertrain.
Should be a fun project. Hydrastatic transmission on each rear wheel...etc.etc.

Over 300 lbs for an electric motorcycle isn't using available technology or design right. Especially one with such limited range (most likely because of the excessive weight). And at over seven thousand dollars is a real rip off.

Kevin_Duke · 07-05-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Which engineers?

The ones who want to be ungodly rich by serving a world market ripe for this innovation. I dunno when we'll see the leap, but there's so much money to be made from it that thousands of bright engineers around the world are racing to bring it to market.

Kenneth_Moore · 07-05-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke

The ones who want to be ungodly rich by serving a world market ripe for this innovation. I dunno when we'll see the leap, but there's so much money to be made from it that thousands of bright engineers around the world are racing to bring it to market.

You don't understand, Mr. Duke. Dr. Seruzawa is a leading physicist, engaged in battery theory and development at MIT. He knows everything there is to know about batteries, and if he says there will never be batteries that work in an electric bike, you can take that to the bank. Brammo, Zero, and the rest of them might just as well give up now.

Kenneth_Moore · 07-05-2010, 02:56 PM

Brammo's zero-emission bike is delivering on the promise of being a real motorcycle while offering a deep hue of environmentally-friendly greenness.

Jeff, I'm a proponent of electric motorcycles, and look forward to the day when they're available as a serious alternative to gas bike. But I have to wonder if you're a bit premature with catagorizing the Brammo as a "real motorcycle." I saw a Zero bike next to the Brammo in one of the photos, did you get to ride both? Frankly the Brammo looks a lot like the Zero, which, in my opinion after riding one, is more electric bicycle than electric motorcycle.

Comments notwithstanding, a great article, and thanks for keeping the E-Bike information flowing!

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seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,398	Yeah well Jackie Chan can afford someone to follow him around in a pickup truck. Need more range and quicker charging. No one has a battery system even in theory that will provide what's needed. Wishing won't make it so. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord!

07-05-2010, 11:49 AM	#7
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	I just don't get it I guess...why not a hybrid? A small four cycle powering a generator, that either charges up the batteries, runs the electric motor directly, or bypasses both and is the power unit. I'm building a beach-going wheelchair based on the above powertrain. Should be a fun project. Hydrastatic transmission on each rear wheel...etc.etc. Over 300 lbs for an electric motorcycle isn't using available technology or design right. Especially one with such limited range (most likely because of the excessive weight). And at over seven thousand dollars is a real rip off. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

07-05-2010, 02:56 PM	#10
Kenneth_Moore Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VIsiting the GIft Shop in the Pit of DIspair Posts: 7,118	Brammo's zero-emission bike is delivering on the promise of being a real motorcycle while offering a deep hue of environmentally-friendly greenness. Jeff, I'm a proponent of electric motorcycles, and look forward to the day when they're available as a serious alternative to gas bike. But I have to wonder if you're a bit premature with catagorizing the Brammo as a "real motorcycle." I saw a Zero bike next to the Brammo in one of the photos, did you get to ride both? Frankly the Brammo looks a lot like the Zero, which, in my opinion after riding one, is more electric bicycle than electric motorcycle. Comments notwithstanding, a great article, and thanks for keeping the E-Bike information flowing! __________________ www.kennethmoore.org

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07-05-2010, 09:59 AM	#2
SpeedwayRN Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 96	Hot damn! Will the take my Brutale in on trade??????? Seriously, why wouldn't I buy a Suzuki TU250 instead? Cheaper and unlimited milage and great gas milage. Gas stations are everywhere....... These will be good 2nd or 3rd bikes for running errands but thats it. Guess I have to provide my own milk crate???? The power distribution network is just not there yet. That is the limiting factor to all these electric vehicles two and four wheels. These probably are the future, however I'm not ready to jump in just yet. Gasoline is still cheap enough.