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Old 07-01-2010, 02:46 PM   #11
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:45 AM   #12
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I doubt they'd consider a V-8.
You are probably right. But they should. Because their aim is to penetrate the US cruiser market, and there is only one thing that is more deeply etched into the American cruising psyche than Harley. That is V-8.

Those BMW suits should spend some time in trailor parks drinking Mad Dog and talking to people. They would learn six cyl import doesn't cut it.

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Old 07-02-2010, 03:41 AM   #13
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BMW has become what Honda used to be... the industry leader.
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:00 AM   #14
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You are probably right. But they should. Because their aim is to penetrate the US cruiser market, and there is only one thing that is more deeply etched into the American cruising psyche than Harley. That is V-8.

Those BMW suits should spend some time in trailor parks drinking Mad Dog and talking to people. They would learn six cyl import doesn't cut it.

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Er, yes, in the motorcycle sport V-8s have always been popular in the USA. (eyes rolling)
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:44 AM   #15
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Those BMW suits should spend some time in trailor parks drinking Mad Dog and talking to people.
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And sitting on a couch in a field with other half-naked men, brushing up on their spelling.

Maybe you can invite them over to your place!
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:43 AM   #16
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BMW invented the enduro?

His definition differs from my perception, I think.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:59 AM   #17
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"We have a lot of Boxer customers who have always been laughed at by the Japanese supersport customers ..."

Somehow I doubt that Boxer owners ever gave a shyt what supersport owners think. I don't even own a boxer and I don't give a shyt either. It's hard to hear SS owners laughter anyhow when you ride more than 25 miles away.

"The K-series, in-line 4-cylinder technology was a radical move, which the company purposely didn’t present as a possible evolution away from the stalwart Boxer engine, but merely an alternative option. "

Not true. The Ks WERE supposed to replace the Boxers, but Reagan eliminated the regulations that would have eliminated the Boxers.

"“We have just given the Boxer (GS),” von Kuenheim says, “just this month, for North America, the best Boxer engine it ever has. It is more powerful and more faster, it is by far the best Boxer engine ever, period.”

Except for the fact that the cases are so thin now that R12 series Boxers are being totaled at a much higher rate in crashes. The older engine cases were much stronger.

BTW, Mongo, BMW did sort of create that segment. That is, if they mean the segment of overweight dualies that are only ridden off-road by about 1% of the owners. Sort of like a HumV.

Actually BMW is far more innovative now than Honda. I just felt like picking on the Germans this 4th of July.
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You gotta figure it's a year or two before the 6 cylinder K1600GT makes its debut.

I'm putting a little extra fleecing money away so I'm ready.
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Excellent article, thanks for posting. What an amazing company that is, a visit to their museum in Munich is highly recommended. Ever since 1917, when their engine (massive water-cooled in-line 6 when the competition was mostly air-cooled rotaries) powered the Fokker VII (or was it the VIII?) and made it the fastest climber and dominant fighter over the trenches for a while, that company has been leading the way in high performance engines and high performance vehicles.

Should'a bought that Boxer on/off road that I tested in the early 90's. O well, just have to settle for the M Roadster I guess ....

Seruzama: "BTW, Mongo, BMW did sort of create that segment. That is, if they mean the segment of overweight dualies that are only ridden off-road by about 1% of the owners."

hmmm, if I HAD bought that bike from the upstate NY dealer, I suspect you would have been describing me.
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Excellent article, thanks for posting. What an amazing company that is, a visit to their museum in Munich is highly recommended. Ever since 1917, when their engine (massive water-cooled in-line 6 when the competition was mostly air-cooled rotaries) powered the Fokker VII (or was it the VIII?) and made it the fastest climber and dominant fighter over the trenches for a while, that company has been leading the way in high performance engines and high performance vehicles.

Should'a bought that Boxer on/off road that I tested in the early 90's. O well, just have to settle for the M Roadster I guess ....

Seruzama: "BTW, Mongo, BMW did sort of create that segment. That is, if they mean the segment of overweight dualies that are only ridden off-road by about 1% of the owners."

hmmm, if I HAD bought that bike from the upstate NY dealer, I suspect you would have been describing me.
The wife and I ride down to Moab Utah occasionally. It's a big destination for bikers. Last time I even saw a couple of old HD/Aermacchi Sprints there. Plenty of GSes abound. However there are some nice loops nearby that are very rough pavement and dirt. We've been on those roads on a Tiger, A Goldwing and an old Suz GSX1100G. I've yet to see a single GS anywhere near those roads. Seen plenty of KLRs though.
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