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The_AirHawk · 06-23-2010, 07:49 AM

The last 2 Ozzy Albums are complete and utter failures - disjointed, incoherent, confused - sorta like an episode of The Osbornes combined with every other reality-show ever made. All at once.

And then came Dio......

Probably the one thing that "saved" the band (musically). It also gave us a glimpse at the idea that leaving the band might not have been entirely on Ozzie's drunken head. Apparenty, Iommi has a mild God Complex, and is not afraid to use it.

#11 (Born Again) sounds distinctly '80s, and is somewhat of a Sophomoric-effort. But, it is very Dark (especially for the '80s). Ian Gillian is no Ronnie James Dio, that's for sure.

#12 (Seventh Star) is a flaming heap of Disco - I dunno WTF Iommi was doing there - it's probably the only one that he will never allow a re-issue of. Too much Cocaine was used in the making of this record, they should have taken the mirrored ball off the ceiling of the Studio.........

#14 (Headless Cross) is the one Mommy's all-over the World should have held-up as the Poster-Child of Satanic Rock - the entire Theme is about Service to The Devil. Probably the Heaviest (in both subject-matter and Riff, with Tony Martin's vocals sounding almost like a blend of Ozzy and Dio. It Literally raised the hair on the back of my neck the first time I heard it, over 20 years-ago. My Dad hated that album; a sure sign it was awesome.

sarnali2 · 06-23-2010, 07:52 AM

Yerp, Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Master of Reality pretty well covered it. I seem to be in a Beatles phase right now, I'm wearing out Abby Road and Let It Be all over again.

Kenneth_Moore · 06-23-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

Or you could simply play any album from Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, etc and hear exactly the same shyt.

Yeah, but some turds are dry and crumbly, some are wet and gooey, some are white, and every once in a while, when the stars align and the rainbow lands in your yard, you find the coveted "Baloney-String Turd." Which is much like the very best of Metallica.

Kevin_Duke · 06-23-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sarnali2

Yerp, Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Master of Reality pretty well covered it. I seem to be in a Beatles phase right now, I'm wearing out Abby Road and Let It Be all over again.

Abby and LIB still somehow sound fresh today. Somewhat related, I love "Savoy Truffle," also from that stage. A contemporary band would do well to cover that tune, although my band from 15 years ago tried without commercial success...

seruzawa · 06-23-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The_AirHawk

Probably the one thing that "saved" the band (musically). It also gave us a glimpse at the idea that leaving the band might not have been entirely on Ozzie's drunken head. Apparenty, Iommi has a mild God Complex, and is not afraid to use it.

No doubt that Iommi brims with technical brilliance. but sometimes nothing is better than a nice comfortable jam by a master
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acecycleins · 06-23-2010, 11:42 AM

Does this mean he;s trying to live off of BMI royalties? He's goona have to tour. Merch is where musicians make their money now-a-days.

The_AirHawk · 06-23-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by acecycleins

Does this mean he;s trying to live off of BMI royalties? He's goona have to tour. Merch is where musicians make their money now-a-days.

I was listenin' to Eddy Trunk a few Mondays-ago, and he was talkin' about how it USED to be that Touring was done as a way to support the Album, and to help flagging sales, to "keep the band in the limelight" so to speak. Now, it's exactly the opposite - Touring is where the Money's at - Album sales are just some ancilliary thing; especially in this day and age of Downloads.

acecycleins · 06-23-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The_AirHawk

I was listenin' to Eddy Trunk a few Mondays-ago, and he was talkin' about how it USED to be that Touring was done as a way to support the Album, and to help flagging sales, to "keep the band in the limelight" so to speak. Now, it's exactly the opposite - Touring is where the Money's at - Album sales are just some ancilliary thing; especially in this day and age of Downloads.

True that!! As a former roadie, sound engineer and road manager I can tell you that we would make as much selling merch over getting paid for the gig. Tough business to be in right now. All work and no play- no pun intended.

Kevin_Duke · 06-23-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by acecycleins

True that!! As a former roadie, sound engineer and road manager I can tell you that we would make as much selling merch over getting paid for the gig. Tough business to be in right now. All work and no play- no pun intended.

I'd revise that. These days, all work means lots of playing.

06-23-2010, 07:49 AM	#21
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leanin' Tower O' P-P-P-P-POWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Posts: 11,426	The last 2 Ozzy Albums are complete and utter failures - disjointed, incoherent, confused - sorta like an episode of The Osbornes combined with every other reality-show ever made. All at once. And then came Dio...... Probably the one thing that "saved" the band (musically). It also gave us a glimpse at the idea that leaving the band might not have been entirely on Ozzie's drunken head. Apparenty, Iommi has a mild God Complex, and is not afraid to use it. #11 (Born Again) sounds distinctly '80s, and is somewhat of a Sophomoric-effort. But, it is very Dark (especially for the '80s). Ian Gillian is no Ronnie James Dio, that's for sure. #12 (Seventh Star) is a flaming heap of Disco - I dunno WTF Iommi was doing there - it's probably the only one that he will never allow a re-issue of. Too much Cocaine was used in the making of this record, they should have taken the mirrored ball off the ceiling of the Studio......... #14 (Headless Cross) is the one Mommy's all-over the World should have held-up as the Poster-Child of Satanic Rock - the entire Theme is about Service to The Devil. Probably the Heaviest (in both subject-matter and Riff, with Tony Martin's vocals sounding almost like a blend of Ozzy and Dio. It Literally raised the hair on the back of my neck the first time I heard it, over 20 years-ago. My Dad hated that album; a sure sign it was awesome. __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

06-23-2010, 07:52 AM	#22
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,644	Yerp, Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Master of Reality pretty well covered it. I seem to be in a Beatles phase right now, I'm wearing out Abby Road and Let It Be all over again. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "Denser alloy. My Father gave it to me, I think he wants me to kill you"... CVF-FCV Last edited by sarnali2 : 06-23-2010 at 08:03 AM.

06-23-2010, 11:42 AM	#26
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,129	Does this mean he;s trying to live off of BMI royalties? He's goona have to tour. Merch is where musicians make their money now-a-days. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

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