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Old 06-05-2010, 12:40 AM   #11
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So how much is it in U$D
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What we will say is – focusing only on inherent flaws and not the fixable ones – we think at $3,399, the 250R displays enough promise that one day, established OEMs may need to look over their collective shoulder.



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Old 06-05-2010, 08:37 AM   #12
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What we will say is – focusing only on inherent flaws and not the fixable ones – we think at $3,399, the 250R displays enough promise that one day, established OEMs may need to look over their collective shoulder.



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Yeah, apparently I'm so interested I can't read...............
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:19 AM   #13
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This review confirms what I've noticed about Chinese built cycles. They seem to be built to a spec, and they try to squeeze every last dime while keeping to spec. If you mention you want plastic panels, but don't spec the kind of plastic you want, you'll get whatever is least expensive. Then, the next year, when you specify changes to fix the shortcomings, a new set appears. They seem to be a 'buyer beware' product: you get it at a good price, but know there will be some problems.
It's that squeezing dime reason Ill never purchase a Chinese built motorcycle. I often think of that old saying" if Harley Davidson built a plane would ya fly in one?"

Once they realize they cannot cut corners and just spend the money to make a product that one, you can get parts for and two, it lasts.
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:33 AM   #14
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Ok as usual it piqued my intrest so I read the article. Besides the few problems that were mentioned like the kickstand and the stalling. I really love the looks alot.

Would love to do a trackday with something like this.
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Old 06-05-2010, 12:10 PM   #15
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Perhaps the comparison to Honda's early years will turn out to be a good one. Cars and bikes have gotten very expensive for the average consumer, leaving a gap for China to enter. Competing cars and bikes were pretty much crap back when the Japanese first came to vehicular prominence though. That is not the case today. China can only compete on price.

Honestly though, I am prejudiced against anything that comes out of China. I don't like China's politics, toxic products (kid's toys, drywall foisted on us) their environmental issues or a seemingly devious business approach in general. Seems to be a cultural thing, but in my work which has involved negotiating with Chinese, I have personally found the truth to be an uncomfortably fluid concept to these people. It is hard not to buy cheap Chinese made products, but I try.

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Old 06-05-2010, 02:20 PM   #16
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Here's more insight into quality of Chinese mfd. goods: Quad is British, and the hi-fi equivalent of Rolls Royce. See what steps they take to ensure quality of workmanship of their loudspeakers in Chinahttp://www.avguide.com/review/quad-22l2-series-51-channel-surround-speaker-system-tpv-90?src=Playback
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:27 PM   #17
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Hmm - they have been on sale here in Australia for about 9 months. They look good, but do rather fall down on quality. Rider reports are extremely variable but more on the negative side - abysmal power - even for a 250 single and some bad reliability problems. The riders reporting being satisfied with the bike tend to be new riders with no expectations. A pity, but, hopefully they will learn fast and improve the reliability to Western expectations......
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