Kenneth_Moore

I was looking at a new 2010 Dyna Super Glide Sunday. It was so well equipped and finished, I actually had to read the points cover lable to figure out it was the most basic and cheapest Big Twin. The new bikes are a tremendous improvement when compared to what $11k got you for a brand new HD 5 or 10 years ago.

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seruzawa

Maybe I put it a bit harshly because it's not that I dislike HDs as much as I'm older and tired of dealing with heavy bikes. I will probably acquire a project bike when I retire next year but am thinking more about a 1200/Storz conversion on an older 883. Though a good price on a clapped out Evo would pique my interest too. Especially a mid 80s FXRS. But at this point it wouldn't become a daily runner. SWMBO keeps wanting me to get one anyhow so who knows what the future brings.

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fumanchu

to quote seruzawa from way back in 2007:

"Lacking anything but sheer guesswork I assume that Honda's m/c division has become ruled by committee."

when running my eyes over the 'state, that's the exact feeling i get - i don't like it's lack of a unifying design concept. it's arbitrarily sharply-edged in some places, and arbitrarily swoopy in others. some parts are chromed to apparently attract attention and exude quality and bling, and other high-visibility parts are conspicuously cheap-looking. it's like they had a suggestion box in the design office.

ymmv, of course.

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MOKE1K

Even though you don't like the weights on the big Japanese cruisers, you've really got to test ride them to get a better idea. Judge balance and what it feels like not just what the manufacture prints.

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seruzawa

Moke, I've ridden a heck of a lot of bikes. I just don't buy the "weight disappears at speed" crap. 750 pounds is 750 pounds. I'm sick of pushing these things around. Another example is my buddy's K12RS vs his SprintST 1050. The mags all said the same bs about "the weight disappearing" on the K12. Well, I'm here to say that that is just sycophantic marketing by bike testers and toadying to the manufacturers. The K12 is a pig compared to the Sprint. In fact Bob calls the K12 "K-Pig". The 100 pound difference of the Sprint is well worth giving up the few extra hp on the K12. Guess which one he is getting rid of.

Or another friend's Road Star Warrior. Yikes what a hog. Yeah it's well balanced but still enough weight to crack concrete. Or Mike's Victory 8-ball. Same thing. Nice bike, well built, good neutral handling, runs like a Swiss watch, but Lordy, what a porker. Just not my style any more.

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MOKE1K

Sure and maybe that's just it your more of a upright guy. Nothing wrong with that. The strat is a great example of feeling it first.

And mind I didn't say anything about it desepearing at speed. Iam talking about sitting on it. Or slow riding threw a parking lot. That will really show the true feeling of it's weght.

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Larry

I hear guys say "I bought the ol' lady a Sportster" and I think to myself, "Why? Do you hate her that much?"

I wouldn't piss on a Sportster if it was on fire.

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Larry

The Warrior has an aluminum frame to save weight but it's still pretty heavy. Only 20 lbs lighter than your buddy's 8-Ball with a steel frame.

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Dr_Sprocket

Only twenty pounds? Geeez! Most people would do better to lose the twenty pounds themselves. Seru's got a legitimate point. Even though we have space-age technology and materials, bikes just haven't gotten that much lighter.

Of course, the power-to-weight ratio is significantly better because of the power bumps (not the weight reductions).

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MOKE1K

That's awsome! Need to put that in my signature

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