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Old 04-13-2010, 06:03 AM   #11
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Bombardier is an impressive company. I was on their Sea-Doo website this weekend looking at their watercraft technology. They've got some innovations there that exceed anything coming from Japan Inc. Every Victory "cruiser" bike I've seen has been impressive; easily as good as HD in fit, finish, and performance. The Vision was a disappointment, but that probably had more to do with having just ridden a C-14 an hour before.

If I wanted to be a Harley Fag, this might be my bike!
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Old 04-13-2010, 06:12 AM   #12
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Well, they can call themselves the second oldest American bike company. They are, no matter what BS the new Indian startup is peddling. They were 3rd until Buell went out. And since Fisher is still in production then Indian is 4th. Heh heh heh.

1-HD
2-Victory
3-Fisher
4-Indian
You forgot ATK. Older than the last three, I bet.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:00 AM   #13
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You forgot ATK. Older than the last three, I bet.
1-HD
2-Rokon
3-ATK
4-Boss Hoss
5-Confederate
6-Victory
7-Fischer
8-Roehr
9-Indian.

Apparently Rokon is still in business.

I'm not counting S&S/HD clones since they are essentially mock-HDs and parts bin specials. Nor do these clowns who re-badge bikes entirely built and assembled in China make the cut.

Note that it just gets worse and worse for Indian's "Oldest US Bike Company" BS ad campaign. It's a brand new company with no ties to the original except the name.

Predating the original Indian was the California Motorcycle Company (1901) and the Orient-Aster (189 and one other I can't remember right now. So not only is Indian merely a new start up copying HD with it's own clone design but even the original Indian Company never ever was America's oldest motorcycle company in any fashion.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:56 AM   #14
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1-HD
2-Rokon
3-ATK
4-Boss Hoss
5-Confederate
6-Victory
7-Fischer
8-Roehr
9-Indian.

Apparently Rokon is still in business.
Well, that Roks On!!
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:42 AM   #15
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"a unique bike that will be a rare sight on the street for sure"......I'm sure there's an upside to this ..........

Actually I think it's pretty cool. I don't care for the front wheel in design or size, I think it's throws off the rest of the bike and should be either a skinny 21 or a fatter 19.....just doesn't look right IMO. Other than that a pretty solid design. Of all the Victories I think the Vegas series is the standout which is surprising because I never cared for Arlen Ness designs. Of course I think the Vision is pretty cool too so you know how good my eyesight is..
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:05 AM   #16
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Gee, another Victory you'll never see anywhere. Instead of that "106" emblazoned on the side panel they should have spray-painted "50% OFF" on it. Tastefully of course. And what was that video of it getting blown into the weeds by another bike? Not good PR if you ask me...

Instead of doing the V-Twin thing all the time, when is some USA company going to put a nice verticle twin, or in-line four together? That Victory motor is way too top heavy for anything but a cruiser. Unless you put the crankcase an inch off the tarmac, that top end is way too big ('cause of the OHC I guess).

Rant rave...oh and give it a carb and a magneto too for us ludites.
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:25 AM   #17
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Good point Matt. No matter how they dress it up, Yet Another VTwin is getting old. Then again, they sell like hot cakes, so whaddya gonna do?

A "Square Four" engine would be neat. You could do some really trick headers out of the sides. Intake might be a bit tricky...
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:22 AM   #18
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It'd be nice if these guys could make a go of it.

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Old 04-17-2010, 07:21 AM   #19
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I like it. Red with black pipes please.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:48 PM   #20
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I've been seeing Victory Visions on the road here in Korea lately, almost every weekend. Saw two of then riding together last weekend. Looked kind of cool, in a "what the #&^$*# was that" kind of way.
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