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Old 03-26-2010, 06:51 AM   #11
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I'm not sure any of the bikes are BORING, but they are all the SAME. And THAT is boring. DIFFERENT would be nice. V-6 anyone? I hear Beemer may be coming out with a 6 soon. Nice. At least they have some different ideas of late. Maybe that is why they are selling bikes. The Japanese fell into the same old trap as they did in the 80's by copying each other.
Maybe make them so that 6' people have a chance of actually riding on them. They are too cramped for tall people and too tall for shorter people. There is only a narrow demographic of people who can fit on these things reasonably. What? 5'6" to 5'9"? I know I haven't been able to fit on them since before the CBR954... which I considered buying when they were on fire sale but I couldn't possibly use one for more than 1/2 hour.

I think that is another reason ATs have taken off. I see a lot more of those around in the last 2 years. Reasonably sporty road bikes.
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Old 03-26-2010, 06:51 AM   #12
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BMW Motorrad Concept 6 - webBikeWorld

And their 6 is only a ****-hair wider than the current 4's.
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:25 AM   #13
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Maybe make them so that 6' people have a chance of actually riding on them. They are too cramped for tall people and too tall for shorter people. There is only a narrow demographic of people who can fit on these things reasonably. What? 5'6" to 5'9"? I know I haven't been able to fit on them since before the CBR954... which I considered buying when they were on fire sale but I couldn't possibly use one for more than 1/2 hour.
Good point. I am 6' tall and my current bike (FZ1) is very comfortable from the waist up with it's raised handlebar, but the legroom is cramped for my 33" inseam. After awhile the 47 year old right knee tends to complain. This on a "roomy" bike compared to a CBR/ZX10, etc.

I recently mounted a SW Mototech crash cage to it. Not because I am a mad stunta, but because tit made a great place to mount some discretely black anodized folding footpegs. They are not cruiser style feet way forward "highway pegs" but rather knees bent at an 80 degree angle style "BMW pegs". Feet forward about 14" from stock, the riding position is very BMW like. I find I can ride for 400 miles easy with the "Highway pegs". Hit the twisty bits and my feet go back on the stock pegs.

Old guys do what they gotta do to get by. Protecting the exposed engine with the crash bars is just a bonus!
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:08 AM   #14
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I don't know why these keep on being brought to the US market. I have an 03 Z1000, orange and love it but they, like all the others, are not big sellers. People really love my bike but when it comes down to owning a bike they want either a cruiser or a replica racer. I will take the comfortable ergos anyday and leave the pretzel type of seating to my trackbike!
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:11 AM   #15
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I agree, I have way much more fun on a ex500 or klr 650 then on any liter bike on the street!
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:12 PM   #16
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Maybe make them so that 6' people have a chance of actually riding on them. They are too cramped for tall people and too tall for shorter people. There is only a narrow demographic of people who can fit on these things reasonably. What? 5'6" to 5'9"? I know I haven't been able to fit on them since before the CBR954... which I considered buying when they were on fire sale but I couldn't possibly use one for more than 1/2 hour.

I think that is another reason ATs have taken off. I see a lot more of those around in the last 2 years. Reasonably sporty road bikes.
Then guys like you who are cramped on full-on sportbikes should buy Z1000s, FZ1s and be bugging Honda about bringing in the CB1K.

I think part of the reason naked sportbikes don't sell here is because the OEMs are afraid of losing money, causing the market to be underserved. I got our long-term Z1K today, so I'm gonna do my part to expound the joys of going naked!
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:28 PM   #17
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stylishly futuristic without being an attack on the visual senses like Kawasaki’s new Z1000.

If the Z's styling is an attack on the visual senses, all I can say is: "Whip me again baby...it hurts so good."
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:31 PM   #18
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Then guys like you who are cramped on full-on sportbikes should buy Z1000s, FZ1s and be bugging Honda about bringing in the CB1K.

I think part of the reason naked sportbikes don't sell here is because the OEMs are afraid of losing money, causing the market to be underserved. I got our long-term Z1K today, so I'm gonna do my part to expound the joys of going naked!
Ha! Better than any of those! Triples rule.
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Old 03-30-2010, 09:14 PM   #19
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When I got my 1100XX, my legs felt cramped, but then I got used to it. Now it feels normal, and there's no discomfort at all. I actually had to get adjustable rearsets for my Z750S, because the standard pegs were too low.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:43 AM   #20
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"I think part of the reason naked sportbikes don't sell here is because the OEMs are afraid of losing money,.."

I think a better reason naked sportbikes don't sell is after the mfg. gets done putting on cheap suspension and neutering the engine, it really isn't a naked sportbike any more.
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