sarnali2

The point is Harley's are not underpowered. How can a 96 cubic inch fuel injected engine be gutless? My FLHT will cruise all day at 90 without batting an eye loaded down with my chunky butt. If you want more than that then there's any number of 3 and 4 cylinder sport touring bikes that will do the trick. it'll accelerate very well up to that speed without a hiccup and stop from that speed in a nice controllable straight line with the ABS.

The bottom line is that you don't know what you're talking about. You're "matter of fact" statements are all subjective, I would say you've never ridden a modern Harley, all you're doing is trotting out the same bullsh*t line as the rest of your ilk who likewise haven't a clue. Hell man, if you don't like them don't buy one, I'm sure your Victory is a perfectly capable bike. I really wish you'd accept the fact that you screwed up by not buying a Harley and get over it.

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Larry

Didn't HD get some financial help from the Government? Polaris did not. Polaris did $1.8 Billion in sales for 2008. They're not broke. If Victory loses money, isn't that a write-off for the parent company?



OK, but when comparing 2 cruisers to each other... apples to apples... do the differences in performance suddenly not matter? The bikes in this comaprison will most likely be loaded with gear and 2 people and ridden up mountains where the additional torque of the Victory will come in handy, don't you think?

My cruiser will out-accelerate a DL 1000 V-Strom or a BMW GS, and is just as quick as an FJR 1300 (5800 RPM rev limit and bike/rider combined weight of 960 lbs). Define "dog" please.

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seruzawa

13 seconds is faster than 11 seconds? Who knew?

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Kenneth_Moore

Ok, that's it. Nobody's pushrod actuated, air-cooled, 100lb flywheel cruiser out-accelerates a DL1000. What is your 0 to 60 or 1/4 mile time?

I've blown the wheels off every bike that's bothered to try me with the exception of a couple full-on sport bikes. And even they got a run for their money.

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Larry

You make a statement like that, but I get accused of Harley bashing? I ride with a guy on a 2009 Street Glide all the time, so I can ride it all I want. Stock it was a pig. Even after pipes, airbox, fuel controller, and a dyno tune it's still shy of the power a stock Victory 100 incher makes.

If you don't like Victorys don't buy one, I'm sure your Harley is a perfectly capable bike, but I really wish you'd accept the fact that the Victory will spank it in almost every category of objective comparison you can come up with.

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Larry

My 60' time is 1.73... 1/4 mile so far was 11.96 in the 100 degree heat on 92 octane gas, saddlebags and all. 118 HP and 122 ft/lbs to the tire. Corrected 1/4 mile shows 11.71. One of my best friends has a DL 1000 and he can't catch me in a straight line (but I know better than to follow him in the twisty stuff). My exhaust is terrible. I will be changing it soon. There's easily 8 HP in better pipes, along with even better low end grunt.

My bike is not stock. It is a very mild build though.

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Larry

The Kingpin went 12.77 when I bought it. Changed the Airbox and went 12.501 @ 105 MPH, engine untouched.

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Larry

Oh, and Victory engines don't use pushrods...

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MOKE1K

Ummm, I work for a Yamaha Dealer? And theres a Harley Dealer accross the street we regularly have bike nights at. Bargin, I think not. How when imo humble opinion the Harley isnt as good. Sorry just an opinion.

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Buzglyd

Good god someone kill this thread!